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  • gloveski
    Senior Player
    • Jan 2003
    • 1018

    Also mentioned pick 4 for pick 12 and Dawson


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    • Markwebbos
      Veterans List
      • Jul 2016
      • 7186

      Where is this from?

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      • gloveski
        Senior Player
        • Jan 2003
        • 1018

        Originally posted by Markwebbos
        Where is this from?
        Was on trade radio


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        • gloveski
          Senior Player
          • Jan 2003
          • 1018

          From Sam Edmund

          JORDAN Dawson deal sits here:

          Adelaide would send the Swans the Dees' future 1st they got y'day. Then Syd and Adel swap their own future first and future second round picks. The Swans like this deal, but the ball is in the Crows' court. Swans have also floated Dawson & 12 for 4.


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          • Syd76
            Warming the Bench
            • Jul 2019
            • 200

            Just on AFL.com.au

            REVEALED: The two new offers in Dawson trade talks

            - - - Updated - - -

            Just on AFL.com.au

            REVEALED: The two new offers in Dawson trade talks

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            • Markwebbos
              Veterans List
              • Jul 2016
              • 7186

              I believe this is what the Swans have asked for rather than what the Crows have offered.

              EITHER: Dawson and 12 for 4
              OR: Dawson and our Future 1st and 2nd for Melbournes future 1st and Crows future 1st and 2nd

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              • longmile
                Crumber
                • Apr 2011
                • 3365

                I still cant believe you can't trade PSD and rookie draft spots? Seems a bit silly when normal draft picks are tradeable

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                • Syd76
                  Warming the Bench
                  • Jul 2019
                  • 200

                  Originally posted by Markwebbos
                  I believe this is what the Swans have asked for rather than what the Crows have offered.

                  EITHER: Dawson and 12 for 4
                  OR: Dawson and our Future 1st and 2nd for Melbournes future 1st and Crows future 1st and 2nd
                  I'd be happy with both of those deals

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                  • Markwebbos
                    Veterans List
                    • Jul 2016
                    • 7186

                    Originally posted by Syd76
                    I'd be happy with both of those deals
                    Which makes it very unlikely the Crows will agree to either... But at least something is happening. Maybe the future pick swap could be the basis for an actual trade (for example taking out the swap of second rounders). We'd REALLY want to finish a long way above the Crows next year.

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                    • Ludwig
                      Veterans List
                      • Apr 2007
                      • 9359

                      Originally posted by Markwebbos
                      Dawson and our Future 1st and 2nd for Melbournes future 1st and Crows future 1st and 2nd
                      I would take this in a heartbeat. This may be the best deal on offer yet. I think Adelaide will finish bottom 4 next year and are even a candidate for the wooden spoon.

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                      • i'm-uninformed2
                        Reefer Madness
                        • Oct 2003
                        • 4653

                        Originally posted by Markwebbos
                        I believe this is what the Swans have asked for rather than what the Crows have offered.

                        EITHER: Dawson and 12 for 4
                        OR: Dawson and our Future 1st and 2nd for Melbournes future 1st and Crows future 1st and 2nd
                        There is no way the Crows do that second deal given our difficult they've been so far. I'd love them to, but no way in the world. Based on this year's ladder, it's worth about pick 5. He's worth it, but they won't do it.
                        'Delicious' is a fun word to say

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                        • KSAS
                          Senior Player
                          • Mar 2018
                          • 1790

                          If push comes to shove prefer the Melb's 2022 first and swapping of 1st & 2nd rounders. Giving Dawson and Pick 12 to Adelaide is overs imo. Even if we manage to trade that pick 4 to Richmond for their picks 7 & 15 the net result of our draft wouldn't have improved that much along with losing Dawson. Chance Melbourne & Crows could have below par 2022 seasons (same with us)! Why can't we get a break like Freo with Cerra!!!

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                          • stevoswan
                            Veterans List
                            • Sep 2014
                            • 8555

                            Originally posted by Bangalore Swans
                            All opinions are valuable. Apologies for the confusion.

                            Obviously my opinion on Lobb is embarrassing according to Stevo.

                            I wasn’t going to let that smear slide.
                            Smear? Wow.....you may well be immune to embarrassment but certainly not to over reaction.

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                            • stevoswan
                              Veterans List
                              • Sep 2014
                              • 8555

                              Originally posted by Bangalore Swans
                              Calling out Papley for giving away three umpiring abuse free kicks (including two against the razor) in 2021 is hardly a smear.

                              Imagine if a fringe player like COR did that. You would be far less tolerant of COR abusing umpires than Papley.
                              Didn't get the joke BS?

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                              • mcs
                                Travelling Swannie!!
                                • Jul 2007
                                • 8166

                                Originally posted by KSAS
                                If push comes to shove prefer the Melb's 2022 first and swapping of 1st & 2nd rounders. Giving Dawson and Pick 12 to Adelaide is overs imo. Even if we manage to trade that pick 4 to Richmond for their picks 7 & 15 the net result of our draft wouldn't have improved that much along with losing Dawson. Chance Melbourne & Crows could have below par 2022 seasons (same with us)! Why can't we get a break like Freo with Cerra!!!
                                I suspect our offer is as much to flush out a reasonable middle ground more than anything - to show we are willing to move a little, but let them move a bit too without losing too much face. I can see future first + a swap of either 1st (or much more likely) 2nd round picks. Yes it still probably undervalues him, but not by too much.

                                And as others have said, I'm far from sold on the Adelaide 'rebuild' making a lot of progress next year. They were okay this season at times, but still very patchy indeed. Still expect they are a good chance to be bottom 6 next year, perhaps even bottom 4 again.
                                "You get the feeling that like Monty Python's Black Knight, the Swans would regard amputation as merely a flesh wound."

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