2021 trading, drafting and list management: players and personnel

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  • Thunder Shaker
    Aut vincere aut mori
    • Apr 2004
    • 4160

    Sydney has drafted a ruckman in the mid-season rookie draft.
    "Unbelievable!" -- Nick Davis leaves his mark on the 2005 semi final

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    • Aaron
      Regular in the Side
      • Jan 2009
      • 805

      Swans has picked McAndrew, the 200 cm+ tall timber of our VFL team at tonight mid-season draft. No Paddy

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      • Aprilbr
        Senior Player
        • Oct 2016
        • 1803

        I've seen this guy playing in our VFL team. He is huge. He is extremely raw and still learning the game. Ex rugby player. An awkward kicking style but he has potential.

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        • Aprilbr
          Senior Player
          • Oct 2016
          • 1803

          I doubt that Paddy will be picked up by anyone but I hope I am wrong.

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          • caj23
            Senior Player
            • Aug 2003
            • 2462

            Bit of an underwhelming selection, he’d have been available at the rookie draft later in the year.

            Has potential but very raw, years away from senior level

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            • Markwebbos
              Veterans List
              • Jul 2016
              • 7186

              Originally posted by caj23
              Bit of an underwhelming selection, he’d have been available at the rookie draft later in the year.

              Has potential but very raw, years away from senior level
              I wondered why we picked him NOW?

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              • MattW
                Veterans List
                • May 2011
                • 4195

                Originally posted by caj23
                Bit of an underwhelming selection, he’d have been available at the rookie draft later in the year.

                Has potential but very raw, years away from senior level
                Now we can pick someone else.

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                • TheBloods
                  Suspended by the MRP
                  • Feb 2020
                  • 2047

                  Originally posted by caj23
                  Bit of an underwhelming selection, he’d have been available at the rookie draft later in the year.

                  Has potential but very raw, years away from senior level
                  Sorry you were bored that we picked based on a NEED !

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                  • AB Swannie
                    Senior Player
                    • Mar 2017
                    • 1579

                    Perhaps we could’ve taken him later in the year but by taking him now he becomes a full time footballer rather than part time mixing training with work or study. That extra 6 months of development could be huge.

                    Personally, I feel like we’ve drafted a lot of hybrid rucks in the last few years so am glad to have a pure project giant on the books.

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                    • caj23
                      Senior Player
                      • Aug 2003
                      • 2462

                      A raw ruckman that is well behind his contemporaries in terms of development and is 3-4 years away from senior selection is a need?

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                      • Ludwig
                        Veterans List
                        • Apr 2007
                        • 9359

                        Perhaps the Swans\ official announcement will give us some insight into the McAndrew selection. Here are some thoughts with pure speculation.
                        • There may have been some concern that another club was interested in him and could have drafted him with a pick after ours.
                        • He may be on a 6 month contract, so if we don't like what we see, we can just delist him (might be on an 18 month contract, but don't know).
                        • We passed on Jackson Callow, one of the more more highly rated key forwards in the draft, who was taken later on. Maybe we didn't rate him, or perhaps we are happy enough with our current key forward prospects.
                        • The same might be true regarding Paddy McCartin. I'm not sure, but Paddy might be able to be signed as a DFA during the trade period.
                        • I think this pick doesn't bode well for Sinkers. If Naismith gets through the season without further injury, we might choose to keep McAndrew as our 3rd ruck and delist Sinclair.
                        Last edited by Ludwig; 2 June 2021, 07:46 PM.

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                        • TheBloods
                          Suspended by the MRP
                          • Feb 2020
                          • 2047

                          Naismith's knee

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                          • bloodspirit
                            Clubman
                            • Apr 2015
                            • 4448

                            Originally posted by caj23
                            A raw ruckman that is well behind his contemporaries in terms of development and is 3-4 years away from senior selection is a need?
                            Absolutely! A developing pure ruck is exactly what we need. He's not going to play any time soon but Sinclair is likely to finish at the end of this season and Hickey and Naismith are older and banged up. We need some young rucks developing behind them. I would still like us to look at trading for a ready to go ruck-forward (like CCJ or Chol from Richmond) as well. They don't have to be best 22 but they have to be ready to play senior footy so we can call on them as a back-up or to play alongside a pure ruck (like Hickey, Naismith and, perhaps one day, McAndrew).
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                            • jono2707
                              Goes up to 11
                              • Oct 2007
                              • 3326

                              That was an unfortunate punch from Paddy a few weeks ago - I thought we'd have drafted him for sure. Hope he keeps doing well in the ressies at least (when he's allowed back) - he's quality.

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                              • caj23
                                Senior Player
                                • Aug 2003
                                • 2462

                                I don’t have anything against McAndrew, from what I’ve seen in the vfl he looks to have potential as a tap ruckman.

                                He is however extremely raw and our history of developing rucks from within is poor at best. He is years away from senior level.

                                I’m not sure what else we should’ve done with our hand, Callow as a developing KPD might’ve been worth a shot, or even Tom Green as an inside mid

                                Anyway it’s done now

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