2021 trading, drafting and list management: players and personnel

[bennyfabulous]

Chris Judd who is regarded as a player that was very good early in his career ave.18 disposals a game at the same age as RB. and the bloods says RB not having a footy brain stops him getting 25 disposals.
I don't know if it has been mentioned on R & W online but I think it is possible that thebloods has unrealistic expectations.

Fortunately the guys picking him each week are in charge of delistings ????

[Blood Fever]

If melican is earning in the top 25 percent of our list as alleged here, beatson needs to be sacked. His three year deal was no good but if he's being paid what aliir should of then that is terrible list management. Hoping it's just rumours

Beatson has nothing to do with player payments.

[Ludwig]

If melican is earning in the top 25 percent of our list as alleged here, beatson needs to be sacked. His three year deal was no good but if he's being paid what aliir should of then that is terrible list management. Hoping it's just rumours

Here's where I got his contract status from:

https://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/pp-sydney-swans--lewis-melican

[barry]

Chris Judd who is regarded as a player that was very good early in his career ave.18 disposals a game at the same age as RB. and the bloods says RB not having a footy brain stops him getting 25 disposals.
I don't know if it has been mentioned on R & W online but I think it is possible that thebloods has unrealistic expectations.

I don't think rowbottom wants to be a failed footy classified panellist, failed board member, failed footy director, and left to spruk dodgy financial products.
Choose another path rowy

[Bexl]

I don't think rowbottom wants to be a failed footy classified panellist, failed board member, failed footy director, and left to spruk dodgy financial products.
Choose another path rowy

no I don't think so either

[Ludwig]

I've been watching some of the U19 championship game between WA and SA. WA have a fair number of talls, both forward and back, that look pretty good. The best of the lot is a name that's come up recently because his accurate goal kicking, Jye Amiss. He's not quite as impressive as Logan McDonald, but has similarities. Amiss looks athletic and is a strong mark, and of course, a very accurate kick for goal.

WA also had 2 impressive KPDs, van Rooyen, who also plays forward, and Bazzo.

Our 1st round live pick should be in 13-15 range, we will gain a spot if Essendon win v. WB, so I think we will have a few KPP choices in the 1st round and perhaps the 2nd round as well.

Corey Warner played, but didn't do much from what I saw. Looks a lot like his brother.

[Torpin de Torpe]

I don't think rowbottom wants to be a failed footy classified panellist, failed board member, failed footy director, and left to spruk dodgy financial products.
Choose another path rowy

Yeah spot on barry. Why would Rowbottom (or any other player) want a career that looks like this:

AFL Premiership player: (2006)
2× Brownlow Medal: (2004, 2010)
Norm Smith Medal: (2005)
AFL premiership Captain: (2006)
West Coast Captain: (2006–2007)
Carlton captain: (2008–2012)
2× Leigh Matthews Trophy: (2006, 2011)
6× All-Australian team: (2004, 2006, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011)
2× West Coast Club Champion: (2004, 2006)
3× John Nicholls Medal: (2008, 2009, 2010)
3× Ross Glendinning Medal: (2005, 2005, 2006)
AFL Rising Star: (nomination 2002)
AFLPA Best First Year Player Award: (2002)
Geoff Christian Medal: (2006)
AFL Goal of the Year (2005)
Madden Medal: (2015)
AFL Life Member: (2015)
West Coast Life Member (2018)
AFL Hall Of Fame (2021)

[NeonBible]

Your are wrong on both accounts:

1. RB has fine footy brain and excellent game vision. This is one of his strong points. He is extremely quick to read the play and get a pass off to the right player in a fraction of a second. He's a very good decision maker. You need to watch this aspect of his game in more detail.
2. It's not true that you can't fix your tank. As a lifelong serious amateur cyclist, I have a pretty good idea what it takes to build aerobic capacity, and lose it as well. It's training and more training. I don't know what RBs aerobic capacity was before he was injured, but losing training continuity surely affected his tank this year. He should get back in better running form with a full preseason.

Hi Ludwig,

You are right on both points here.. Joey Kennedy was never renowned for his elite fitness, but he willed himself to be one of the fittest mids in the comp by sheer hard work!! No reason Jimmy Rowbottom can't do the same!

Interestingly I've noticed a bit of a pattern where the more involved Rowy is, the better his ball use becomes.

Rd 1 Brisbane before his knee injury he had the most contested possessions of all our mids (13) and went at 78% disposal efficiency.
Against Collingwood he had 9 contested possessions and went at 89% disposal efficiency.
Against Carlton he had 8 contested possessions and went at 83% disposal efficiency.
Against St Kilda he had 11 contested possessions and went at 80% disposal efficiency.
Against North he had 9 contested possessions at 82% disposal efficiency.
And in the final against GWS he had 8 contested possessions at 80% disposal efficiency.

In fact since he came back from his spell and looked a lot better, he finished the season with games of 82%, 83% and 80% disposal efficiency. Quite a lot of mids especially you expect their ball use to drop the more they're accumulating.. Rowy seems to get tidier the more hard balls he is winning! Some players just need to get their hands on the leather to really get a feel and get their touch! There is no denying that finding the ball is his challenge at the present.. but if he can get more of the ball then the numbers don't lie.. he's a classy ball winner!!

Totally agree we should give him time and see how things unfold for him.

CHEER CHEER

[Auntie.Gerald]

https://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/pp-greater-western-sydney-giants--sam-taylor

great talent and slipped thru to pick 28 in the draft a few years back

[Auntie.Gerald]

Jordan Dawson will be our swing man like Reidy going forward ie can play HBF, WING and or HFF when needed due to match ups etc

I suspect that if Reidy stays with us it will be a light contract

Dawson now takes over his pay packet and then some

If Reid went back to Vic would a North or Hawks etc want to trade him in for a pick 25 to 35?

[i'm-uninformed2]

Here's where I got his contract status from:
https://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/...-lewis-melican

For this to be true, Melican would need to be on +$500k. There is no way that’s the case. Footywire must be wrong.

[gazza]

clean out the list ready for 2022. gray,taylor,brand,clarke,ronke. no longer required.

[Captain]

I think Brand offers so much more than Melican.

[Agent 86]

I think Brand offers so much more than Melican.

5 ordinary games in 2 years maybe says otherwise.

I like the pelican. Runs hard and generally a pretty reliable defender when on his game. Unfortunately he was not for much of yesterday & looked out of sorts. He did work his way back into the game & much more solid after half time. Damage done though & we had to chase the game.

Tough call - but LM > KB.

[Agent 86]

clean out the list ready for 2022. gray,taylor,brand,clarke,ronke. no longer required.

Harsh but fair.