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  • Ralph Dawg
    Senior Player
    • Apr 2018
    • 1729

    Originally posted by Ludwig
    I tend to agree with this. We had a chance to take JVR at 18 and Bazzo with our 2nd pick, but didn't, so evidently didn't think highly enough of the key defenders in this draft.

    We certainly do have enough KPPs around. It's just a bit uncertain how they will go: Paddy and Reid with injury and Gould and O'Connor lacking any AFL experience.

    But our KPP stocks are more than deep enough to give this lot a go and put off decisions in this area until next year. The 2 first rounders next year should put us in good stead to draft a good one or recruit someone from another club.

    The expectations coming out of this draft are not too high, so any decent performances will be seen as a positive. We've gone with natural footballers with footy smarts and hard workers, rather than flash. I think we might be overflowing with flash right now, so probably an astute move.

    I still think we will take Anderson as a Cat B rookie, plus our commitment to redraft Taylor. Our list size with go to 45, but Naismith really shouldn't be counted, so it's 44 who can play.
    Speaking of Naismith, would he be on the long term injury list? Could we potentially nab someone midseason to replace him? I reckon he would be second only to Buddy if you worked out his per game price.

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    • Aprilbr
      Senior Player
      • Oct 2016
      • 1803

      Originally posted by Ludwig
      Swans working hard to find someone that no one has heard of.
      I was hoping for the next Ling to be selected by us but alas, we went for players that many pundits also thought could play. So boring!

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      • TheBloods
        Suspended by the MRP
        • Feb 2020
        • 2047

        Originally posted by Ludwig
        Rowbottom put out a self-promotional video of himself today: Rowbottom: I feel like I have much more to offer

        He must have known that we would take 4 replacements for him in this draft alone. He says he has to do better since he's the worst player on our list. I noticed that he's done away with all the strapping on his knee and his shoulder. He may not be able to play, but give him credit for trying to look like he can play.
        Wtf are you on about

        I didnt mention him

        and im the one who is obsessed

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        • Bloods05
          Senior Player
          • Oct 2008
          • 1641

          Originally posted by TheBloods
          Wtf are you on about

          I didnt mention him

          and im the one who is obsessed
          ????????????

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          • Auntie.Gerald
            Veterans List
            • Oct 2009
            • 6474

            Rankin vs Constable was interesting

            Ie Charlie was picked up after us via Stewie Dew at The Suns

            I'm guessing we see significant upside for Rankin?
            "be tough, only when it gets tough"

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            • wolftone57
              Veterans List
              • Aug 2008
              • 5835

              Originally posted by Ralph Dawg
              So we've drafted 4 mids, can't really see us taking Angus Anderson anymore. Maybe a punt a tall defender in the rookie draft, either project or mature? Charlie Dean?
              We have nominated him. He will be rookied

              Sent from my JAT-L29 using Tapatalk

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              • Markwebbos
                Veterans List
                • Jul 2016
                • 7186

                Originally posted by Auntie.Gerald
                Rankin vs Constable was interesting

                Ie Charlie was picked up after us via Stewie Dew at The Suns

                I'm guessing we see significant upside for Rankin?
                Why would we draft any player if we didn’t?

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                • stevoswan
                  Veterans List
                  • Sep 2014
                  • 8543

                  Originally posted by mcs
                  Get the screen cleaner out.... going to be some excited boys on here tonight with that pick
                  Gold!

                  Originally posted by dejavoodoo44
                  They can clean up their own mess.

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                  • liz
                    Veteran
                    Site Admin
                    • Jan 2003
                    • 16738

                    Originally posted by Auntie.Gerald
                    Rankin vs Constable was interesting

                    Ie Charlie was picked up after us via Stewie Dew at The Suns

                    I'm guessing we see significant upside for Rankin?
                    I don't reckon the Swans would have spent even a nanosecond considering Constable.

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                    • liz
                      Veteran
                      Site Admin
                      • Jan 2003
                      • 16738

                      Originally posted by wolftone57
                      We have nominated him. He will be rookied

                      Sent from my JAT-L29 using Tapatalk
                      We've "nominated" about half a dozen from the academy. We certainly won't be taking them all.

                      I'm not convinced we even have space to add him (or anyone else) to the list unless we move Naismith to the inactive list to make room for McCartin.

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                      • 707
                        Veterans List
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 6204

                        Originally posted by liz
                        So with 36 players now on our senior list, four on our Cat A rookie list (Fox, McLean, Wicks, McAndrew) and a promise to rookie Taylor, that leaves just one spot open on the list (with some flexibility on whether it's a senior or rookie list spot). We seem to have made a commitment to McCartin.

                        So does that mean we won't be participating in tomorrow's rookie draft? Or is there a plan to move Naismith to the inactive list, thus freeing up a spot for McCartin, and then to draft one rookie tomorrow?

                        I am still somewhat surprised that we retained Clarke on the list for another season. He was out of contract (I think) so there wasn't the same obligation as we had towards Taylor. I realise there are others who might have lost their spot (Ronke, Reid) but they play slightly different positions. It didn't appear that the coaches had much interest in playing Clarke in the senior team last year, and I'm not sure I see that changing.
                        I've given up on trying to reconcile list numbers - and I'm a numbers bloke!

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                        • stevoswan
                          Veterans List
                          • Sep 2014
                          • 8543

                          Originally posted by mcs

                          Interesting we've take more WA boys too - wonder if part of it is trying to build a decent cohort of them at the club to try and dampen the go home factor.
                          Evoking the tradition that garnered us the 'Swans' moniker all those years ago.

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                          • Auntie.Gerald
                            Veterans List
                            • Oct 2009
                            • 6474

                            Is this our 2022 list?

                            No attempt at afl vs cat B vs whatever just all 44 players?

                            SYDNEY SWANS 2022

                            B - Fox Rampe Cunningham
                            HB - Lloyd McCartin Blakey
                            C - Florent Heeney McInerny
                            HF - Wicks Franklin Gulden
                            F - Papley McDonald Hayward
                            Foll - Hickey Parker Mills

                            Bench
                            19. Warner Chad
                            20. Campbell
                            21. Ladhams
                            22. Kennedy


                            23. Stephens
                            24. Gould
                            25. Oriordan
                            26. Rowbottom
                            27. Sheldrick
                            28. Amartey
                            29. McLean
                            30. Reid
                            31. Roberts
                            32. Warner Corey
                            33. Rankin
                            34. Melican
                            35. Sinkers
                            36. Oconnor
                            37. Bell
                            38. Ronke
                            39. McAndrew.
                            40. Naismith
                            41. Taylor
                            42. Sheather
                            43. Clarke
                            44. Paddy?
                            45. Anderson?
                            "be tough, only when it gets tough"

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                            • COB
                              Pushing for Selection
                              • Jan 2021
                              • 89

                              Originally posted by liz
                              We've "nominated" about half a dozen from the academy. We certainly won't be taking them all.

                              I'm not convinced we even have space to add him (or anyone else) to the list unless we move Naismith to the inactive list to make room for McCartin.
                              Liz has Clarke actually been re-signed. I have seen no mention of him being delisted but my understanding was that his contract finished this year. If he isn't on the list then that would leave us room for Anderson and McCartin I think.

                              Off - Dawson Hewett Ling Brand Carruthers Gray and Clarke ?
                              On - Ladhams Sheldrick Roberts Warner Rankin McCartin and Anderson ?.

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                              • liz
                                Veteran
                                Site Admin
                                • Jan 2003
                                • 16738

                                Originally posted by COB
                                Liz has Clarke actually been re-signed. I have seen no mention of him being delisted but my understanding was that his contract finished this year. If he isn't on the list then that would leave us room for Anderson and McCartin I think.
                                I honestly don't know, but I'd be surprised if the Swans had delisted him without acknowledgment.

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