Match Thread. Swans v Geelong.

[Mark26]

Surely im not alone in wondering if Rowbottom is all there ?? Dying seconds jumps on the ball makes zero effort to get rid of it. 1 second away from a HTB. High tackle or not , siren or not it's frickin dumb !

It all depends on your perspective. Someone could easily make a case for him being illegally held by Selwood (his head was between his knees) or Rowbottom took it upon himself to keep the ball out of Geelong's hands, ensuring a Swan's win.

I would recommend you watch the rest of the game. He was brilliant and is a bright part of our future. How do you dismiss his one handed mark, one handed pick up at full speed, great goal in the 4th, etc? Unless of course you have a personal vendetta against Rowbottom or you love casting lures.

[TheBloods]

Rowbottom got away with nothing as it was a high tackle. He should have been given a free if anything. Cameron would have had extreme difficulty converting his non mark. The siren would have gone before he took his kick so any attempt to deviate offline would have been game over. A mark on the boundary line against the point post is not too difficult during normal play but is far more difficult after the siren.

Having some form of DRS for only part of a game is unfair like wise limiting the number of calls is also unfair as frequently seen in cricket where an idiot batsman burns a DRS to the detriment of the team. Having unlimited DRS in a game would mean that it would never finish and the media would not like that. DRS is not the answer. If it was look at the strange goal awarded to West Coast yesterday. Totally unclear if it was a goal or touched and if a goal unclear as to who kicked it. We do not need any more rubbish rules. There are more than enough already.

Fact is the high wasnt paid and so he had to get rid of the ball but made no attempt. DRS wouldnt save him. Not hard to fake some punches. Would chalk it up to a brain fade if it was a smarter player

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It all depends on your perspective. Someone could easily make a case for him being illegally held by Selwood (his head was between his knees) or Rowbottom took it upon himself to keep the ball out of Geelong's hands, ensuring a Swan's win.

I would recommend you watch the rest of the game. He was brilliant and is a bright part of our future. How do you dismiss his one handed mark, one handed pick up at full speed, great goal in the 4th, etc? Unless of course you have a personal vendetta against Rowbottom or you love casting lures.

Has nothing to do with the rest of his game which i have already said was ok !! Just a stupid thing to do in the dying seconds of a match and if the siren went a second or two later it would go down as one of the worst plays of the last decade !

[mcs]

It all depends on your perspective. Someone could easily make a case for him being illegally held by Selwood (his head was between his knees) or Rowbottom took it upon himself to keep the ball out of Geelong's hands, ensuring a Swan's win.

I would recommend you watch the rest of the game. He was brilliant and is a bright part of our future. How do you dismiss his one handed mark, one handed pick up at full speed, great goal in the 4th, etc? Unless of course you have a personal vendetta against Rowbottom or you love casting lures.

Not worth wasting your energy mate - we all know said poster will lay the boot in at any opportunity, and won't be happy unless said player is delisted.

I would hope I'm not alone in sometimes thinking, like the accusation thrown at said player, that some on here are not 'all there' either.

[Markwebbos]

I complained that it was misreporting and biased and that it presents an opinion as fact.

That will have done the trick

[Markwebbos]

Surely im not alone in wondering if Rowbottom is all there ?? Dying seconds jumps on the ball makes zero effort to get rid of it. 1 second away from a HTB. High tackle or not , siren or not it's frickin dumb !

TB is that the best you can come up with after 36 hours?

[Ludwig]

I don't know if RB's locking the ball in was even a decision, as he had little opportunity to do anything with the ball with Selwood on top of him. Knocking the ball out, if possible, could have been a costly error.I don't know if the umps would have called HTB in any case, as they've really eased up on those calls, especially when it's a game decider. No one knows what the HTB rule interpretation is these days.

Overall, I thought RB had a mixed day, with some important moments on both sides of the ledger. His defensive work has been quite good and he kicked that critical goal in the 4th quarter. On the negative side, he had 8 clangers, easily leading the Swans in that stat. He made some poor decisions and several kicking errors.

On balance, I thought he had a pretty good game. The mistakes he made are easily correctable.

[giant]

Not sure why people are ripping into Scott here. He was directly asked if it was a bad call, and it was - what's he going to say? His answer was honest - it was a bad call, but it happens. In particular, he said "umpires don't decide games". He also generally took emphasis off the last stages of the game, saying the problem was that they couldn't put us away earlier, and questioning why the AFL only comments on umpiring decisions at the end of close games. That's exactly the point others here are making about bad calls earlier in the game that would have made the last 30 seconds irrelevant. (I imagine he thinks that they went against the Cats, but is the prerogative of the supporter to be one-eyed).

Agree, I had no issues with Scott's presser, think he was just being honest. That said, I reckon he went easy on his own team - that a squad with that level of experience let a bunch of youngsters claw back from 2 goals down with 3 mins to go was damning for a team that's meant to be at the premiership zenith. Sam Menegola in particular got to play spectator as first Warner, then JMac and finally Guilden got to kick goals or set them up. BUt frankly you could say the same about several of their more experienced players.

[stevoswan]

Surely im not alone in wondering if Rowbottom is all there ?? Dying seconds jumps on the ball makes zero effort to get rid of it. 1 second away from a HTB. High tackle or not , siren or not it's frickin dumb !

Keep punching TheBloods! Yawn.....

[stevoswan]

That will have done the trick

I don't care if it doesn't....it just felt good to vent.

[Bloods05]

Surely im not alone in wondering if Rowbottom is all there ?? Dying seconds jumps on the ball makes zero effort to get rid of it. 1 second away from a HTB. High tackle or not , siren or not it's frickin dumb !

Nope, you're alone. And don't call me Shirley.

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It would certainly ad to the crowd or telivised drama. Can you imagine Longmire calling for the DRS on a holding the ball decision and the Swans crowd watching replay on the screen and starting to erupt when it clearly looks like the Swans are going to win the DRS for holding the ball instead of conceding a goal. How exciting.

What about the commentators saying “he has to use the DRS there” or “was that decision crucial enough to the burn the DRS”.

None of this sounds remotely exciting. Tedious would be closer to the mark.

[i'm-uninformed2]

Surely im not alone in wondering if Rowbottom is all there ?? Dying seconds jumps on the ball makes zero effort to get rid of it. 1 second away from a HTB. High tackle or not , siren or not it's frickin dumb !

No, he's probably not. That's what led him to picking up "someone's" missus one night - because we're now at the point where it's the only thing that can explain this.

[Bloods05]

No, he's probably not. That's what led him to picking up "someone's" missus one night - because we're now at the point where it's the only thing that can explain this.

I saw a similar vendetta against Stuart Maxfield on a Swans forum in the early 2000s. Apparently the guy had some personal gripe with him, to do with a woman in both their lives. You may not be too far wide of the mark here.

[bloodspirit]

I think TheBloods is way off base insultingly questioning whether Rowbottom "is all there" (and why insult our own players if you support them?) - but I do think Rowbottom should have done more to get rid of the ball in that instance.

[aardvark]

Paps on 774 Radio Sunday arvo said Rowy knew how much time was left. Sounds like he made an intelligent well thought out decision and it paid off.

[Meg]

I think TheBloods is way off base insultingly questioning whether Rowbottom "is all there" (and why insult our own players if you support them?) - but I do think Rowbottom should have done more to get rid of the ball in that instance.

Very much agree with your first point. And agree on your second - or at least that Rowbottom should have made some attempt to make it look like he was trying to dispose. A player in possession generally has to give the umpire some cause not to call HTB. A set shot free kick from that position would likely have won Geelong the game. Fortunately he/we were saved by the siren.

I expect Rowbottom will get plenty of positive feedback from the coaches on his overall performance on Saturday. And also some advice about that very last (non) play.