2022 List management, trading, drafting

[Roadrunner]

This morning I saw this hedline, and felt a wave of relief because I thought he was considering not playing next year. Then I read what turns out to be a blind-Freddy piece, simple stating that Buddy isn't what he was and is now unable to play as a key forward or up the ground.

Aging Buddy Problem #1
All great forwards attract more than the optimum amount of attention of their midfielders, if there's no time to assess all the options then kick it to Boddy/Plugger/Barry/whomever. While they are still capable of converting a good chunk of these opportunities into goal all is well and good. But Buddy isn't any more and our midfielders seem incapable of resisting the Buddy temptation.
Aging Buddy Problem #2
Buddy has alway put his other forwards into the shade, opportunity wise. Effectively any key forward playing along side Buddy ends up in starvation corner. This is a particular problem when you've got a high draft pick kid that you think has the goods. So in the absence of any clinically recognised form of Buddy-Aversion-Therapy for midfielders - it's up to the selection committee.

I just hope that body has the strength to limit Buddy's appearance to 50% or less next season, before the tabloid sub editor's start churning out "Beautiful Swan to Ugly Duckling" headlines.

Buddy will be managed next year. Obviously he’s not what he used to be so midfielders etc need to pass to our other forwards- but of course they will need to make leads and prevent just bombing the ball. I think Buddy is still value as he will take the #1 or #2 defender in the games he plays. If the passion is still there I think he has made the right decision. Plus he will help with the development of our young, inexperienced tall forwards.

[Aprilbr]

I guess we will learn Lloyd's plans in coming days. There has been little speculation on him leaving so hopefully that's a good sign.

[neilfws]

Reid signed for another year according to Mitch Cleary.

Sam Reid has committed to a new deal to stay at Sydney

[dejavoodoo44]

If both Reid and Franklin have signed for another year, I wonder if that increases the chances of Amartey or McLean seeking a trade, to search for more opportunities? I think both are decent AFL level players, who would probably already be playing regularly in a few lesser sides; but I doubt if either will become a star of the competition. So, it might be mutually beneficial, if we traded one for a pick upgrade, which we could use to draft a KPF with potentially more upside.

[707]

Reid signed for another year according to Mitch Cleary.

Sensible signing

[mcs]

Very comfortable with Reid staying around for another year. His best this year was very good - and arguably his injury may have been the thing that sent our season off the rails at the end. Without his injury, I think we would have beaten Collingwood very comfortably - it was a 'sliding doors' moment in that game.

Not sure a fully fit Reid would have made much difference on Saturday, and no point playing 'what if' games, but I do think we were clearly rattled by the end of that Collingwood game (both physically and mentally), and with the benefit of hindsight it feels like it left a relatively young team vulnerable to putting in a stinker.

[stevoswan]

Very comfortable with Reid staying around for another year. His best this year was very good - and arguably his injury may have been the thing that sent our season off the rails at the end. Without his injury, I think we would have beaten Collingwood very comfortably - it was a 'sliding doors' moment in that game.

Not sure a fully fit Reid would have made much difference on Saturday, and no point playing 'what if' games, but I do think we were clearly rattled by the end of that Collingwood game (both physically and mentally), and with the benefit of hindsight it feels like it left a relatively young team vulnerable to putting in a stinker.

Spot on.

[Ruck'n'Roll]

Buddy will be managed next year. Obviously he’s not what he used to be so midfielders etc need to pass to our other forwards- but of course they will need to make leads and prevent just bombing the ball. I think Buddy is still value as he will take the #1 or #2 defender in the games he plays. If the passion is still there I think he has made the right decision. Plus he will help with the development of our young, inexperienced tall forwards.

Nonsense, if a team sends their #1 or #2 defender to Buddy, they are wasting their resources. Melbourne did that and we won well. Neither Collingwood nor the Cat's did and we didn't win well.

And I too hope Buddy is managed, but your certainty on this matter is based on bugger all. It was what the better thinkers on here were hoping for this year, and some were hoping for it last year. It's a good thing hope springs eternal because so far those hopes have been in vain. LOL

[Aprilbr]

Reid signed for another year according to Mitch Cleary.

Sam Reid has committed to a new deal to stay at Sydney

Reid definitely deserves another year. He had a great season until the GF.

[liz]

Nonsense, if a team sends their #1 or #2 defender to Buddy, they are wasting their resources. Melbourne did that and we won well. Neither Collingwood nor the Cat's did and we didn't win well.

And I too hope Buddy is managed, but your certainty on this matter is based on bugger all. It was what the better thinkers on here were hoping for this year, and some were hoping for it last year. It's a good thing hope springs eternal because so far those hopes have been in vain. LOL

Collingwood didn't send their #1 defender to Buddy in the first half and we smashed them. They did after half-time and began their comeback. (Though there were more factors at play than just who Buddy was playing on.)

On balance I'm happy he's playing on, especially after Saturday. I'd have hated that to be the way his career ended. I'm open minded about what to expect. He did still kick over 50 goals this year, but clearly he needs to play a role next year that supports the development of McDonald and others.

[ugg]

Logue's agent mentions he had a "chat" with the Swans, but ultimately Logue decided to go to Melbourne due to the "postcode" and "a chat with Clarko"

How a Clarkson Zoom call got Logue “over the line” for North Melbourne

[Roadrunner]

Nonsense, if a team sends their #1 or #2 defender to Buddy, they are wasting their resources. Melbourne did that and we won well. Neither Collingwood nor the Cat's did and we didn't win well.

And I too hope Buddy is managed, but your certainty on this matter is based on bugger all. It was what the better thinkers on here were hoping for this year, and some were hoping for it last year. It's a good thing hope springs eternal because so far those hopes have been in vain. LOL

Even so, he has kicked 50 odd goals this year. Who was our next best ? Even in games when he didn’t score much, he contributed. My only criticism of Buddy is that the team tends to play through him a bit too much and he needs to recognise this and change his game accordingly. But Logan and Joel have a fair way to go before they can consistently win games for us, but next year they will be given every opportunity whether Buddy plays or not. Logan was given quite a few games this year- Joel less so. I’m confident they can establish themselves next year if they are good enough as no way will Buddy play as often as this year.

[stellation]

Logue's agent mentions he had a "chat" with the Swans, but ultimately Logue decided to go to Melbourne due to the "postcode" and "a chat with Clarko"

How a Clarkson Zoom call got Logue “over the line” for North Melbourne

There's a bit of fodder popping up this off season that proponents of COLA can have up their sleeve when knocking on the door of AFL House;
Logue: "it was more about the postcode"
Cameron: "I spent 10 years up in Sydney, a place that I'd never thought I'd spend two years" (admittedly they could point out "but he spent 10!")
Hopper: always wanted to play for a big Melbourne club
Bruhn: just show the clip of him being picked by GWS, then requesting a trade as soon as his rookie trade is up.

I appreciate they may respond that in the case of GWS' off season woes they made their own bed with paying overs to keep interstate players, which I guess could immediately be responded with "yeah, it's like you have to pay over to keep interstate players?".

[Ruck'n'Roll]

Collingwood didn't send their #1 defender to Buddy in the first half and we smashed them. They did after half-time and began their comeback. (Though there were more factors at play than just who Buddy was playing on.)

Are you sure Liz, I thought I saw Buddy take his match saving mark against Maynard?

I'm open minded about what to expect. He did still kick over 50 goals this year, but clearly he needs to play a role next year that supports the development of McDonald and others.

Are you as confident as Road Runner that he will play a role, I'm fearful that the old dogs new tricks analogy may apply. And even if he does how are the oaches to stop the mids kicking get-out-of-jail-free-balls to him?

[i'm-uninformed2]

There's a bit of fodder popping up this off season that proponents of COLA can have up their sleeve when knocking on the door of AFL House;
Logue: "it was more about the postcode"
Cameron: "I spent 10 years up in Sydney, a place that I'd never thought I'd spend two years" (admittedly they could point out "but he spent 10!")
Hopper: always wanted to play for a big Melbourne club
Bruhn: just show the clip of him being picked by GWS, then requesting a trade as soon as his rookie trade is up.

I appreciate they may respond that in the case of GWS' off season woes they made their own bed with paying overs to keep interstate players, which I guess could immediately be responded with "yeah, it's like you have to pay over to keep interstate players?".

Correct, and neither Logue nor Hopper are even from Victoria, but they still got sucked in by the bright lights of footy in Melbourne.