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  • Ludwig
    Veterans List
    • Apr 2007
    • 9359

    Originally posted by mcs
    Have to challenge severity. 3 weeks seems excessive despite stupidity of the action.
    We can argue that it was a football act.

    But a football act from a very dumb player.

    He needs some serious time with the shrink.

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    • dejavoodoo44
      Veterans List
      • Apr 2015
      • 8490

      Originally posted by Ludwig
      We can argue that it was a football act.

      But a football act from a very dumb player.

      He needs some serious time with the shrink.
      Although I am wondering, if making Sinclair first ruck, was a cunning ploy by Laidler to have Ladhams fired up for the game?

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      • liz
        Veteran
        Site Admin
        • Jan 2003
        • 16731

        I'm a little confused about how the suspension works in terms of interaction between the AFL and VFL. The SEN report says that Ladhams won't be available for the senior team now unless we lose our QF. But surely if we win, and the VFL teams wins next week, the second week of his suspension will be eaten up by the VFL PF, even if our AFL team has the week off. And then the third week would be eaten up by the AFL PF (and the VFL GF, in the unlikely event that the Swans make it).

        Or is there a special rule that says both teams have to be playing in a given weekend for a week of the suspension to be exhausted?

        I am hoping this is purely academic, and that we don't remotely need him for the AFL grand final (because Hickey's great, not because we don't get there). But I'm curious how it works.

        And yes, three weeks does seem excessive, despite the dumbness of the act.

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        • TheBloods
          Suspended by the MRP
          • Feb 2020
          • 2047

          Originally posted by Ludwig
          We can argue that it was a football act.

          But a football act from a very dumb player.

          He needs some serious time with the shrink.
          Maybe he did it so no one would talk about how he was getting belted in the ruck and hitting it to Casey mids non stop , and was a butterfingers in marking contests ? If so it worked .

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          • Blood Fever
            Veterans List
            • Apr 2007
            • 4040

            Originally posted by Thunder Shaker
            Ladhams will not be available due to suspension.

            Swans ruckman handed 3-week ban after shocking VFL hit
            Stupid act but 3 weeks is ridiculous

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            • Meg
              Go Swannies!
              Site Admin
              • Aug 2011
              • 4828

              Originally posted by liz
              And yes, three weeks does seem excessive, despite the dumbness of the act.
              I do concede three weeks is OTT. I’m still very very annoyed with him though.

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              • troyjones2525
                Swans Fanatic!
                • Mar 2008
                • 2908

                I was bullish for us to get Ladhams as I thought he had a bit of potential, especially when we were trading Aliir to Port. But I fear I was wrong as he looks a pretty ordinary trade in and 3 year deal at the moment!

                I wonder if he is happy in Sydney and getting on well with the playing group??? Most of his social media is still referencing Adelaide so he may be struggling to fit in which is affecting his football?

                Time will tell but we may need to look at back up options this off season!

                Sent from my SM-G998B using Tapatalk

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                • KSAS
                  Senior Player
                  • Mar 2018
                  • 1763

                  Originally posted by Meg
                  I do concede three weeks is OTT. I’m still very very annoyed with him though.
                  Did the VFL MRO also taken into consideration Ladham's AFL suspension against Port earlier this season, hence their 4 weeks down to 3 weeks offering?

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                  • rb4x
                    Regular in the Side
                    • Dec 2007
                    • 968

                    You can see why Port fans were happy to see the back of Ladhams and why I posted that the ruck I wanted from Port was Sam Hayes. A question of character.
                    Last edited by rb4x; 29 August 2022, 04:59 PM.

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                    • TheBloods
                      Suspended by the MRP
                      • Feb 2020
                      • 2047

                      Originally posted by troyjones2525
                      I was bullish for us to get Ladhams as I thought he had a bit of potential, especially when we were trading Aliir to Port. But I fear I was wrong as he looks a pretty ordinary trade in and 3 year deal at the moment!

                      I wonder if he is happy in Sydney and getting on well with the playing group??? Most of his social media is still referencing Adelaide so he may be struggling to fit in which is affecting his football?

                      Time will tell but we may need to look at back up options this off season!

                      Sent from my SM-G998B using Tapatalk
                      Wrong .

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                      • bloodspirit
                        Clubman
                        • Apr 2015
                        • 4448

                        It was a very poor act (again!) by Ladhams. And he has really let the team and club down with his suspension. I'm annoyed/angry/disappointed with him.

                        However, Ladhams' best footy is pretty good and he may be our future ruck so I'm not going to be so quick to wash my hands of him. His discipline and consistency are both big issues that he needs to rectify. I don't (yet) regret bringing him.

                        Remember, Paddy Mc did something considerably worse in the VFL last year and we've decided to forget about it now that he's playing good footy for us.
                        All opinions are not equal. Some are a very great deal more robust, sophisticated, and well supported in logic and argument than others. -Douglas Adams, author (11 Mar 1952-2001)

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                        • Meg
                          Go Swannies!
                          Site Admin
                          • Aug 2011
                          • 4828

                          Swans VFL 2022

                          Originally posted by bloodspirit
                          Remember, Paddy Mc did something considerably worse in the VFL last year and we've decided to forget about it now that he's playing good footy for us.
                          Paddy has been open about being very regretful about that incident. He hasn’t tried to excuse himself but he did have medical issues that lay behind his loss of control (his sugar level plummeted due to his Type 1 diabetes). So his good footy isn’t the only reason we just ‘forget about it’.

                          There may be reasons we don’t know about that lie behind Ladhams’ ill-discipline. It would be nice to at least hear some contrition from him about letting down the club.

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                          • KTigers
                            Senior Player
                            • Apr 2012
                            • 2499

                            Originally posted by Thunder Shaker
                            Ladhams will not be available due to suspension.

                            Swans ruckman handed 3-week ban after shocking VFL hit
                            Jesus, does he not know we're in the finals and Hickey's body is a week-to-week proposition, and he is the next man up?

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                            • bloodspirit
                              Clubman
                              • Apr 2015
                              • 4448

                              It surely can't be long before the club wheel out an statement of regret from Ladhams too. I personally found Paddy's apology last year to be a bit rote and possibly scripted. I got a much greater sense of remorse from Andrew Gaff after he smashed Andrew Brayshaw off the ball, or even from Barry Hall after Staker et.al. All of which is a bit of a distraction because one's public apology skills are not necessarily a great gauge of remorse.

                              I'm not sure if I have heard about the role Paddy's diabetes played in his incident. Even so, that seems a poor excuse - he has had diabetes all his life and has been playing and managing the condition effectively for years - but I confess ignorance both about the condition generally and about Paddy's particular circumstances so I don't want to be too definitive.

                              Anyway, I'm not here to pan Paddy. I'm saying I'm not writing Pete off yet despite the fact that he has been poorly disciplined on repeat occasions and also pretty inconsistent with his form. I doubt he'll ever be one of my favourite players. Conversely, I absolutely love Hickey and his work for us.
                              All opinions are not equal. Some are a very great deal more robust, sophisticated, and well supported in logic and argument than others. -Douglas Adams, author (11 Mar 1952-2001)

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                              • bloodspirit
                                Clubman
                                • Apr 2015
                                • 4448

                                I think we should either contest the length of the ban or, if we don't, privately decide we won't play him again in seniors this year come what may.
                                All opinions are not equal. Some are a very great deal more robust, sophisticated, and well supported in logic and argument than others. -Douglas Adams, author (11 Mar 1952-2001)

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