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  • mcs
    Travelling Swannie!!
    • Jul 2007
    • 8166

    Originally posted by Foreign Legion
    Yep that is it.

    Too many first quarters thrown away and makes it bloody hard to come back.

    I don't understand how we can be so bad early in the game - every week! I'm sorry but Longmire needs to fix that somehow.
    The strange bit was we really hot for the first 10 minutes or so, started very promisingly. Then had a couple of brain fart moments and all the way down hill from there.
    "You get the feeling that like Monty Python's Black Knight, the Swans would regard amputation as merely a flesh wound."

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    • stevoswan
      Veterans List
      • Sep 2014
      • 8557

      Originally posted by Merdo5555
      Astonishingly poor performance.

      Either we need to stop being Buddy-centric or they need to re-consider that contract offer. Buddy's play deserves it but our team fails to function as a cohesive forward line when he plays. I dont see it changing.
      This is true....so glaringly true. I don't want to diss the great man but we seem to function better up forward without him. I never thought I'd say that.....and I feel dirty.

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      • stellation
        scott names the planets
        • Sep 2003
        • 9720

        I think the idea of the bye is fine, but I'm always surprised that they don't seem to be able to work out the scheduling so that teams coming off a bye just play another team coming off a bye. 3 weeks with an even number of teams each week having a bye, no reason you can't just have them play each other the following week.
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        We watched him fade before our very eyes, and years before his time

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        • waswan
          Senior Player
          • Oct 2015
          • 2047

          Buddy at his best marking it 60 out, Logan good up the ground

          The deep option needs to be Heeney, Reid and the 2nd Ruck

          Logan not strong enough to consistently body and Buddy doesnt take pack marks

          Reid pure swing man, fwd, back, ruck, if he goes back, Rampes can run off. His 1 on 1 work is killing us, cos he is undersized. The frees he gives away that turn i to shots on goal are momentum turning

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          • snajik
            Senior Player
            • Jan 2003
            • 1115

            Originally posted by aardvark
            Until we learn to play 4 quarters we won’t be winning any premierships
            This is more the issue than the bye.
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            • mcs
              Travelling Swannie!!
              • Jul 2007
              • 8166

              Originally posted by stellation
              I think the idea of the bye is fine, but I'm always surprised that they don't seem to be able to work out the scheduling so that teams coming off a bye just play another team coming off a bye. 3 weeks with an even number of teams each week having a bye, no reason you can't just have them play each other the following week.
              They just don't care about that Stella, that's why they don't try to make it work. Sporting fairness is a long way down the list of AFL wants when it comes to scheduling. Whatever TV wants, TV gets in general.

              Otherwise, we'd simply have what used to happen - being a general bye and a week without footy, and none of the retarded idea that is the pre-finals bye (aka knows as the Fairypuppies Christmas gift) week either.
              "You get the feeling that like Monty Python's Black Knight, the Swans would regard amputation as merely a flesh wound."

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              • Mel_C
                Veterans List
                • Jan 2003
                • 4470

                Originally posted by Bexl
                I think we need to lobby the AFL as hard as we can to get rid of the bye .
                I was just about to post something similar. We really don't like having a break.

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                • mcs
                  Travelling Swannie!!
                  • Jul 2007
                  • 8166

                  Originally posted by stevoswan
                  This is true....so glaringly true. I don't want to diss the great man but we seem to function better up forward without him. I never thought I'd say that.....and I feel dirty.
                  I'm happy for him to get another contract - who wouldn't be. But equally, if I was running the joint, you'd have to seriously wonder whether the - outweigh the +.

                  I wouldn't mind seeing him playing muych further up the field is he does play on. Off a half forward flank, almost on the wing. Let him be a key weapon kicking it into Inside 50, not the target inside 50.

                  He has done astoundingly well to kick as many as he had at the Swans given our inability to play to his strengths at all for a large chunk of the time he has been at the club.
                  "You get the feeling that like Monty Python's Black Knight, the Swans would regard amputation as merely a flesh wound."

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                  • Ludwig
                    Veterans List
                    • Apr 2007
                    • 9359

                    When we only have one good player on the ground, Heeney, it's hard not to blame the coaching staff for poor game preparation. Everyone can't be this bad at once. We only seem to be able to prepare on a 7 day schedule. Otherwise, we looked cooked.

                    It doesn't pay to criticise individual players, because the list is simply too long. Perhaps I'll just join the consensus and single out Wicks, who hasn't given us much even when the rest of the team played well.

                    It also bugs me that the same game play problems I've commented on early in the season are still there.
                    • We don't defend the space around 10 metres inside our defensive 50. It's too easy for coaches to pick this up and play to this weakness.
                    • We play into the congestion going forward instead of away from the congestion. There are too few options inside our forward 50.


                    When we do play well, we spread the field, run and create open space inside 50. This is true for most good sides, so it's no big secret.

                    Today we were out-pressured, a sure way to lose a game.

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                    • dejavoodoo44
                      Veterans List
                      • Apr 2015
                      • 8626

                      Don't know where the team was in the third quarter. Perhaps they were overconfident after a couple of players went down for Port and they thought they could coast to victory? But they really were out-tackled, outrun, and more or less stood back while Port took the game away.

                      For a moment or two, there was a vague chance of a comeback in the fourth, but Heeney was the only forward having a good game. And the forwards missing a number of chances in the second didn't help, either. Hopefully there'll be a four quarter effort next week and we can soon forget all about this abomination.

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                      • mcs
                        Travelling Swannie!!
                        • Jul 2007
                        • 8166

                        Originally posted by dejavoodoo44
                        Don't know where the team was in the third quarter. Perhaps they were overconfident after a couple of players went down for Port and they thought they could coast to victory? But they really were out-tackled, outrun, and more or less stood back while Port took the game away.

                        For a moment or two, there was a vague chance of a comeback in the fourth, but Heeney was the only forward having a good game. And the forwards missing a number of chances in the second didn't help, either. Hopefully there'll be a four quarter effort next week and we can soon forget all about this abomination.
                        Don't hold your breath Deja - we have barely put in a four quarter effort all year. It is simply a sign of a team still very much in the development phase - but the wild swings within games sure are frustrating to watch.

                        We needed the intensity we showed at the start of the 4th at the start of the 3rd quarter, and it might have been a very different outcome.
                        "You get the feeling that like Monty Python's Black Knight, the Swans would regard amputation as merely a flesh wound."

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                        • Matty10
                          Senior Player
                          • Jun 2007
                          • 1331

                          This is one those piss-poor effort games that is just so frustrating. Port weren’t really up for the game early either, but our half-effort ineptitude gave them confidence.

                          We just didn’t have the fight required to win the game.

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                          • waswan
                            Senior Player
                            • Oct 2015
                            • 2047

                            Originally posted by Matty10
                            This is one those piss-poor effort games that is just so frustrating. Port weren’t really up for the game early either, but our half-effort ineptitude gave them confidence.

                            We just didn’t have the fight required to win the game.
                            No Boak, Gray, 2 injured.

                            And they waltzed around under no pressure.

                            I think Sydney coaches need to change the mindset of instead of going in with 1 ruck cos they dont have a known ruck, why not go in with 2 and exploit their weakness ?

                            We always try to counter the other side, by tagging a midfield, putting mills back etc instead of just backing in what we bring to the table.

                            If we have 2 rucks, destroy them in the middle with it.

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                            • Nico
                              Veterans List
                              • Jan 2003
                              • 11339

                              Insipid performance. The rot started when Hayward decided it was smart to play on instead of going back to kick the goal from 15 metres. He was dog awful. Enough said about Wicks. How the coaches think he is better than Campbell is beyond me. I suspect it will be Wicks out, Bell in.

                              On the bye; it appears we lose our sharpness after a bye. Lack of quality training?

                              Cunningham should not have been out there. Looked way under done and didn't attack the footy with any effort. His old timidness appeared to return. Should have played reserves and doesn't have star quality to just walk back into the side. Fox should have played.
                              http://www.nostalgiamusic.co.uk/secu...res/srh806.jpg

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                              • Markwebbos
                                Veterans List
                                • Jul 2016
                                • 7186

                                Originally posted by waswan
                                No Boak, Gray, 2 injured.

                                And they waltzed around under no pressure.

                                I think Sydney coaches need to change the mindset of instead of going in with 1 ruck cos they dont have a known ruck, why not go in with 2 and exploit their weakness ?

                                We always try to counter the other side, by tagging a midfield, putting mills back etc instead of just backing in what we bring to the table.

                                If we have 2 rucks, destroy them in the middle with it.
                                Only problem with that strategy is our one ruck was getting beaten by all comers and giving away goals via stupid off the ball nonsense.

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