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  • liz
    Veteran
    Site Admin
    • Jan 2003
    • 16733

    Originally posted by 707
    There have been a number of mature talls become MSD success stories.
    Such as?

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    • barry
      Veterans List
      • Jan 2003
      • 8499

      Originally posted by Blood Fever
      I wonder why you follow the club when apparently it can't do anything right.
      We are near the bottom of the ladder and look like missing finals. Something is wrong.

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      • Blood Fever
        Veterans List
        • Apr 2007
        • 4040

        Injuries irrelevant?

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        • waswan
          Senior Player
          • Oct 2015
          • 2047

          Originally posted by liz
          Such as?
          I agree here, its a rarity to grab a player mid year to be anything of a league player

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          • liz
            Veteran
            Site Admin
            • Jan 2003
            • 16733

            I've had another skim through players taken in the mid-season drafts. Other than Ash Johnson, who I identified in a previous post, the only tall player I could find who has become an established AFL player is Ryan Gardner, who has played 45 games with the Bulldogs since being taken in the 2019 mid-season draft, including 22 last year. He had recently been delisted from Geelong, where he spent three years on the list without playing a game.

            There are a handful of ruckmen in the AFL incubation system: Teakle who has played a few games for Port, Ned Moyle at the Suns who has other clubs sniffing around him, and, of course, our very own McAndrew.

            Cooper Sharman burst onto the scene at the Saints as a smaller key forward, kicking ten goals from five games. But he only managed two goals from ten games in 2022 (he played down back in many of those) and seems out of favour now, having played just two games this season even while the Saints have been hit hard by injury, especially to their tall forwards. I suspect he'll struggle to stay on the list beyond this year.

            Even amongst smaller players, there are very few who have really established themselves in their teams. (I mentioned Pickett and Noble in my previous post on the subject.)

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            • Blood Fever
              Veterans List
              • Apr 2007
              • 4040

              Wasn't McLean mid season?

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              • liz
                Veteran
                Site Admin
                • Jan 2003
                • 16733

                Originally posted by Blood Fever
                Wasn't McLean mid season?
                Pre-season supplementary period signing.

                I haven't gone to survey the results, but I suspect the hit rate is a bit better in the pre-season supplementary period. Clubs have had a chance to reflect on their lists post national/rookie draft and see what's left. They get to talk with players and invite them to train for a week or two. The cream of what is left is then skimmed off, so it's not surprising that there's rarely much left for the mid-season draft.

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                • Blood Fever
                  Veterans List
                  • Apr 2007
                  • 4040

                  Ok

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                  • Thunder Shaker
                    Aut vincere aut mori
                    • Apr 2004
                    • 4150

                    West Coast seem to have pick 1 in the bag after Hawthorn thumped them. If they end with pick 1, they are likely to split it. GWS and North may do deals.

                    The bad news: we hold Hawthorn's second-round and third-round picks which have declined a bit in value.
                    "Unbelievable!" -- Nick Davis leaves his mark on the 2005 semi final

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                    • caj23
                      Senior Player
                      • Aug 2003
                      • 2462

                      Originally posted by Thunder Shaker
                      West Coast seem to have pick 1 in the bag after Hawthorn thumped them. If they end with pick 1, they are likely to split it. GWS and North may do deals.

                      The bad news: we hold Hawthorn's second-round and third-round picks which have declined a bit in value.
                      Lol in what universe are the Eagles passing on the next Dusty Martin? There’s not a hope in hell that they split their pick

                      Reid is a country Vic boy, he’s not a flight risk like the metro mummy’s boys

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                      • i'm-uninformed2
                        Reefer Madness
                        • Oct 2003
                        • 4653

                        At the start of the year, I thought Hawthorn and West Coast would fight it out for the Harley Reid Cup. But it won’t be a contest, and allowing for an injury list that is putrid compared even to us, there’s something wrong there.

                        As for splitting no1. No way, they’d be mad to anyway. Reid will make Daicos and Ashcroft look like punks. I get Norf did it last year, but apparently they rated Sheezel no1 (after Ashcroft), so they got him anyway, and the bonus of Wardlaw.
                        'Delicious' is a fun word to say

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                        • 707
                          Veterans List
                          • Aug 2009
                          • 6204

                          I know I'm hindsight drafting but in more disturbing news, after the Sheldrick the pick before Van Rooyen in 2021 -

                          We now have Weddle looking the goods, taken with the pick 18 we swapped with Hawks in 2022 for Cooper Vickery, Hawks 2023 second and third rounders. Just sayin'

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                          • stevoswan
                            Veterans List
                            • Sep 2014
                            • 8543

                            Just heard on a 'True Footy' youtube video that Ladhams may be put on the 'inactive list'.....must be a pretty bad ankle injury.

                            Wow, our talls situation just keeps getting worse!

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                            • liz
                              Veteran
                              Site Admin
                              • Jan 2003
                              • 16733

                              Originally posted by stevoswan
                              Just heard on a 'True Footy' youtube video that Ladhams may be put on the 'inactive list'.....must be a pretty bad ankle injury.

                              Wow, our talls situation just keeps getting worse!
                              Inactive list indicates a second midseason draft pick (and possibly a third, depending on Paddy's situation). And given who it is, and question marks over Hickey's fitness/durability, it throws up a possibility that we might be the club that pulls Naismith back into the AFL system.

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                              • caj23
                                Senior Player
                                • Aug 2003
                                • 2462

                                I was very critical of the club for retaining Sam on the list for so long, but he's such a likable guy and his body seems to be holding up in the VFL so if Ladhams is down, its probably a good option

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