2023 List Management

[Maltopia]

Don’t know how old he is but Robbie Fox is around 30 so he could fill a very similar role. I’d be thrilled if he wanted to join us.

Just 25. Could play for next six to seven years.

[Scottee]

I don't think it's that basic. There was a decent breeze blowing across the ground from west to east. It particularly affected kicking towards the Paddington end as there is a gap between the Members' Stand and the MA Noble.

##Geelong were kicking to that end in the final quarter, and you can see Hawkins aim at the left hand goal post and allow the breeze to pull the ball through the goals, and you can see Rohan (who is one of the most reliable straight kickers at goal) aim straight towards the middle of the goal, only to see the wind drag the ball to the right for a behind.

I am pretty sure it was the first quarter - when the Swans were kicking to that end - that Heeney hit the two behind posts on the full (from separate shots). I am a little less certain of this, but I think he hit the right hand post with the first shot and the left hand post with the second. Neither was a particularly fluent kick, but I suspect he overcompensated with the second for the wind as well as slightly miskicking.

None of that excuses how collectively bad the team was with its conversion (and doesn't let Hickey off the hook for his awful misses, or Fox for running into the open goal and kicking into the post), but it wasn't as simple as just aiming at the middle of the goal from 30+m out.


## I have to credit my O'Reilly Stand neighbour (who I think occasionally reads RWO but isn't a signed up poster) who, as Hawkins was lining up, said that Hawkins needed to aim at the left hand post (which he did). And when Rohan didn't do the same a short time later, we exchanged a look of relieved "told you so-ness".

I understand that the wind was a factor Liz, but the balls that Heeney kicked went in the direction of his follow through. The first one ( to the left) went exactly in the direction he kicked. The second one to the right did too, but was grabbed by the wind late, so he has a bit of an excuse for that one.Come to think of it he may have over compensated both shots. I guess I have seen him miss so many of these shots this year I am putting it down to his technique, rather than conditions.

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[ugg]

The latest episode of "The Tradies" podcast with Mitch Cleary and Sam McClure has linked us to Tom Barrass again.

Tradies | #16 We have NEVER talked about this many players before AND has this one trade ruined this club? – Tradies – Podcast – Podtail about the 15 min mark.

Summary of points:

• 4 years left on a 6 year contract, which gives West Coast leverage.
• has a sister who lives in Sydney.
• Our current pick 6 (based on our current ladder position) would be too much for a player who would be 28 at season's start next year. More likely pick 10-12, or only if West Coast pay some of his salary (100-200k?)

[giant]

Love the call on Jack S, have had the same thoughts myself. It staggers me that a team that is so often questioned about its ticker can leave a bloke who leaves everything out on the park every time he plays out of their team. And he's a very versatile and not half talented footballer too - would be delighted if he fell our way.

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Heeney kicked 49 goals 28 behinds (11 no scores) last year @55.38% which was fourth behind McLean (68.75%), Gulden (62.07%), and Franklin (55.91%) for Swans with at least 10 shots. The year before that he kicked 36.21 (no access to no scores) so he is traditionally an accurate shot at goal.

My recollection was that he started the season with 12 straight last year before it all went a bit awry from the Eagles game at Optus.

[troyjones2525]

Interesting to see here on the latest ESPN 2023 Draft Power Rankings that Caiden Cleary has slotted in as a "new entry". Haven't followed it too closely (but intend to catch up with the replays), but he must be having a strong U18 championship's!

AFL Draft Power Rankings July 2023 Jasper Chellappah - Allies dominate Top 20 as Jed Walter closes in on Harley Reid - ESPN


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[707]

A lot to spend our first pick on in those rankings.

Still hoping to get a couple of picks in before matching Cleary but with the way the Allies are dominating, maybe we only get our first in.

[troyjones2525]

We'll most likely trade our first pick for a bag of magic beans... lol.

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[rickmat]

Another mention of Barass in the media today and the growing likelihood by the Eagles and Barass of him looking elsewhere next season, regardless of him signing a new contract. Apparently he has a sister living in Sydney. Swans have been interested in Barass for at least 2 years and he would be an experienced quality asset for the Swans, regardless of what we need to offer. The Eagles are looking for draft picks desperately so they may be willing to do a deal with the Swans

[Dow]

Silvagni plays where and in place of who?

Close to list clogger status, although I appreciate he gives 100% all the time. Not sure he raises the talent level here.

Can’t see who he would replace in the best 22, depth player at best we would be crazy to look at him, does t fill any needs we have

[Maltopia]

Can’t see who he would replace in the best 22, depth player at best we would be crazy to look at him, does t fill any needs we have

He replaces Reid, and potentially Tom McCartin who has a concussion cloud over him. After that Rampe is going to be declining next year and the year after.

He is also an upgrade on McLean up forward, and coverage for an often injured Almartey.

[lwjoyner]

After reading Logan Macs comments about Buddy maybe we should offer him another year and play him every second game or so. get him to teach all fwds the craft. It might give him the chance to go out on a finals swansong.n

[Thunder Shaker]

The pick of the bunch of the loaded 2023 key defender targets (sen.com.au)
Doesn't tell us anything we already know: that we are interested in Barass. Discusses the Swans in a bit of detail.

Players named as KPD targets: Barrass, Doedee, Himmelberg, McKay and Ratugolea (Swans only named as chasing Barrass).

[Cosmic Wizard]

Another mention of Barass in the media today and the growing likelihood by the Eagles and Barass of him looking elsewhere next season, regardless of him signing a new contract. Apparently he has a sister living in Sydney. Swans have been interested in Barass for at least 2 years and he would be an experienced quality asset for the Swans, regardless of what we need to offer. The Eagles are looking for draft picks desperately so they may be willing to do a deal with the Swans

Yes but he turns 28 in October.

If they want a second (even future) round pick by all means, but no way he is worth our first pick.

We need, unlike Stephens, a quality midfielder for the next 10-15 years to replace Parker at some stage.

[waswan]

Really interested in what Barrass is worth in draft picks.

Dawson was Pick 17ish, surely thats about right.

Dylan and 2nd Rounder ?

[chalbilto]

Why do you want to offload Dylan. He is going well in the reserves and I still have high hopes for him. Give him another pre-season where the coaching staff refine his overall skills and boost his confidence.