2023 List Management

[Mark26]

Tom Greene would be a nice get

A big yes to Tom Greene. He's an excellent player and doesn't have the same grub status as the other Green.

[Ruck'n'Roll]

I don't understand this talk about big-bodied midfielders. Our list management team spoke about adding midfield depth in 2021. So we drafted Sheldrick, Roberts in 2021 and Caleb Mitchell last year. I don't know if any of these would satisfy the term big-bodied; certainly Sheldrick would classify as wide-bodied. Foregone were the additions of any KPPs in the ND for 2 years running, which left a hole in our defence this year.

This big-bodied midfielder will have to be pretty big, quick ane skillful, because it's not clear to me who gets killed out of our midfield when he comes in. Nor is it clear to me what the destinies will be for Sheldrick, Roberts, Corey Warner and HHK, who have all shown enough to project a future at AFL level.

I also suppose we will add Cleary to our list this draft.

4 of the top 10 contested ball winners are shorter than 180 cm. We all lament not taking the small bodied 7th highest contested ball winner Caleb Serong instead of Stephens in the draft.

The body size seems to have less to do with winning the ball than other factors, which we can mull over for a while as to what that is.

If we are still looking for a big-bodied midfielder, one has to wonder what we were doing the past 2 drafts.

As for me, I'm stuck on finding key defenders. The rest will take care of itself.

I agree wholeheartedly with Ludwig again.
I'd merely add that when we shifted JPK out of the centre so we could include Mills, RWO was awash with explanations that Mills (at 6ft2) would be our new big-bodied-mid.
It's all very confusing.

[Blood Fever]

I don't understand this talk about big-bodied midfielders. Our list management team spoke about adding midfield depth in 2021. So we drafted Sheldrick, Roberts in 2021 and Caleb Mitchell last year. I don't know if any of these would satisfy the term big-bodied; certainly Sheldrick would classify as wide-bodied. Foregone were the additions of any KPPs in the ND for 2 years running, which left a hole in our defence this year.

This big-bodied midfielder will have to be pretty big, quick ane skillful, because it's not clear to me who gets killed out of our midfield when he comes in. Nor is it clear to me what the destinies will be for Sheldrick, Roberts, Corey Warner and HHK, who have all shown enough to project a future at AFL level.

I also suppose we will add Cleary to our list this draft.

4 of the top 10 contested ball winners are shorter than 180 cm. We all lament not taking the small bodied 7th highest contested ball winner Caleb Serong instead of Stephens in the draft.

The body size seems to have less to do with winning the ball than other factors, which we can mull over for a while as to what that is.

If we are still looking for a big-bodied midfielder, one has to wonder what we were doing the past 2 drafts.

As for me, I'm stuck on finding key defenders. The rest will take care of itself.

All valid points but we got monstered by Cats midfield in GF.

[The Big Cat]

This big-bodied midfielder will have to be pretty big, quick ane skillful, because it's not clear to me who gets killed out of our midfield when he comes in. Nor is it clear to me what the destinies will be for Sheldrick, Roberts, Corey Warner and HHK, who have all shown enough to project a future at AFL level.

You certainly go big on HHK who hasn't even made the emergencies list yet. I don't want to be a curmudgeon, but I suspect he might be delisted come October.

[ugg]

It doesn’t really change your point but HHK was emergency in R3

[Ludwig]

You certainly go big on HHK who hasn't even made the emergencies list yet. I don't want to be a curmudgeon, but I suspect he might be delisted come October.

You are being a curmudgeon.

I don't know if you are a follower of our VFL games, but if you are, tell us what you think of HHK.

[giant]

Hopefully we're all in for Barass now - 1st and 2nd round pick and they can throw in Elliot Yeo for next year's third rounder. Those few times WCE have looked competitive this year, it's been on the back of Yeo's sheer will-power. Might not have much left in the tank but we won't need it for long.

[Markwebbos]

I don't understand this talk about big-bodied midfielders. Our list management team spoke about adding midfield depth in 2021. So we drafted Sheldrick, Roberts in 2021 and Caleb Mitchell last year. I don't know if any of these would satisfy the term big-bodied; certainly Sheldrick would classify as wide-bodied. Foregone were the additions of any KPPs in the ND for 2 years running, which left a hole in our defence this year.

This big-bodied midfielder will have to be pretty big, quick ane skillful, because it's not clear to me who gets killed out of our midfield when he comes in. Nor is it clear to me what the destinies will be for Sheldrick, Roberts, Corey Warner and HHK, who have all shown enough to project a future at AFL level.

I also suppose we will add Cleary to our list this draft.

4 of the top 10 contested ball winners are shorter than 180 cm. We all lament not taking the small bodied 7th highest contested ball winner Caleb Serong instead of Stephens in the draft.

The body size seems to have less to do with winning the ball than other factors, which we can mull over for a while as to what that is.

If we are still looking for a big-bodied midfielder, one has to wonder what we were doing the past 2 drafts.

As for me, I'm stuck on finding key defenders. The rest will take care of itself.

Do we need different personnel in there or a change in structure / method? Sam Mitchell has turned his midfield around without Mitchell / OMeara. With the right midfield coach can we not do the same?

P.s. I have high hopes for our wide-bodied mid

[The Big Cat]

You are being a curmudgeon.

I don't know if you are a follower of our VFL games, but if you are, tell us what you think of HHK.

Yep. I follow the VFL. If HHK as impressive as you say why hasn’t he played seniors when for half the year we’ve had half the team injured.

[Blood Fever]

Watch highlights of each VFL game. Way more time and space during the game. Makes it difficult to form judgement on players.

[i'm-uninformed2]

I don't understand this talk about big-bodied midfielders. Our list management team spoke about adding midfield depth in 2021. So we drafted Sheldrick, Roberts in 2021 and Caleb Mitchell last year. I don't know if any of these would satisfy the term big-bodied; certainly Sheldrick would classify as wide-bodied. Foregone were the additions of any KPPs in the ND for 2 years running, which left a hole in our defence this year.

This big-bodied midfielder will have to be pretty big, quick ane skillful, because it's not clear to me who gets killed out of our midfield when he comes in. Nor is it clear to me what the destinies will be for Sheldrick, Roberts, Corey Warner and HHK, who have all shown enough to project a future at AFL level.

I also suppose we will add Cleary to our list this draft.

4 of the top 10 contested ball winners are shorter than 180 cm. We all lament not taking the small bodied 7th highest contested ball winner Caleb Serong instead of Stephens in the draft.

The body size seems to have less to do with winning the ball than other factors, which we can mull over for a while as to what that is.

If we are still looking for a big-bodied midfielder, one has to wonder what we were doing the past 2 drafts.

As for me, I'm stuck on finding key defenders. The rest will take care of itself.

Same.

Lachie Neale has been one of the best midfielders in the comp for five years, and look at the size of him. That little turd Liberatore is one of the best clearance players there is, plus a world class thrower.

You watch Sheldrick - his ability to position his body, and use his leg power to create space over the ball to advantage himself is seriously first class. It’s instinctive, and helps him burrow through a pack to feed it out. And I get size can help you do it the way JPK had it, or Cripps does. But it’s not the exclusive domain of taller blokes.

And as for a big bodied mid, we do have Mills, but Horse seems reluctant to park him in there week after week.

[barry]

The biggest big body mid is .... Brodie Grundy.

[Blood Fever]

Tempting

[Markwebbos]

The biggest big body mid is .... Brodie Grundy.

It’s very tempting

[Blood Fever]

Fits our 'Big Fish' history