2023 List Management

[barry]

. I was going by the number on the thread list page. Is that a count of replies to the original post?

If so, then reply 666. Same kind of point

Is these sort of clumsy fumbles that's taken over the swans. On field and in the supporter base.
You wouldn't have made such a simple mistake last year mal.

[The Big Cat]

Both coaches commented how the footy was like a cake of soap for much of the game, so how about we cut the players a bit of slack. Also the need to cover injuries has repercussions beyond those players who are out. It means other players have to play different roles that affect the game plan. This is especially true of Blakey, Fox, Errol, Papley to name a few.

[Nico]

I think trying to get a marquee player in the off season for big dollars is not the answer. Tippet and Franklin took big slices of the salary cap and we can't afford to try to shuffle the deck chairs again for an extended time. I am happy to take a couple of seasons of mid table finishes to solidify our list with astute drafting.

[Maltopia]

Is these sort of clumsy fumbles that's taken over the swans. On field and in the supporter base.
You wouldn't have made such a simple mistake last year mal.

No, I make sloppy mistakes all the time unfortunately!

[Ruck'n'Roll]

I think trying to get a marquee player in the off season for big dollars is not the answer. Tippet and Franklin took big slices of the salary cap and we can't afford to try to shuffle the deck chairs again for an extended time. I am happy to take a couple of seasons of mid table finishes to solidify our list with astute drafting.

I made the point about the long, long term danger of shuffling the salary cap deckchairs last month on this thread, Tom Harley recently described this process in terms of being non-binary AFL trade news, rumours, whispers: Collingwood Magpies interest in Harry Himmelberg, Essendon Bombers, clubs interested, Sydney Swans, latest
I thought it a slightly strange, but clearly topical turn of phrase (given the proximity of the Pride game).

[barry]

GWS seem to adopting an interesting strategy with list management. They identify a player in the top 3 draft prospects who is likely to stay in Sydney and then trade picks to get a 1st or 2nd round pick to take him. They might trade 3 or 4 picks to get 1 good pick. Then the rest of their recruiting is via academy or picking up fringe players from other clubs.
It actually sounds sensible for a northern club.

[Roadrunner]

I made the point about the long, long term danger of shuffling the salary cap deckchairs last month on this thread, Tom Harley recently described this process in terms of being non-binary AFL trade news, rumours, whispers: Collingwood Magpies interest in Harry Himmelberg, Essendon Bombers, clubs interested, Sydney Swans, latest
I thought it a slightly strange, but clearly topical turn of phrase (given the proximity of the Pride game).

There was a time we needed marquee players to help establish ourselves in Sydney, but I don’t think that’s the case now. It’s a team game and I would prefer to spread the cap around our young players who have potential to become elite. Of course if a star became available who wants to come to us, I wouldn’t say no, but otherwise I would concentrate on the draft and very selective trading. I wouldn’t trade in players just for the sake of it, as we’ve done in the past. There are exceptions like big Tom, where we were desperate for a ruckman and he performed way beyond our expectations, and maybe even that of our recruiters. In reality, we should never have been in that position as surely this is the main role of the guys whose job is to plan ahead. It’s a tough gig but that’s what they get paid for and they need to do better in the future!

[Auntie.Gerald]

I think the assumption of shuffling deck chairs when u bring in a big time player is only half true

The absence of a significant game winning player means that you are equally shuffling deck chairs just with a different strategy

I mean we are all in the same salary cap and they are used almost always to the max

Both scenarios require enormous success to valid them

[Blood Fever]

GWS seem to adopting an interesting strategy with list management. They identify a player in the top 3 draft prospects who is likely to stay in Sydney and then trade picks to get a 1st or 2nd round pick to take him. They might trade 3 or 4 picks to get 1 good pick. Then the rest of their recruiting is via academy or picking up fringe players from other clubs.
It actually sounds sensible for a northern club.

Smart strategy stemming from the spoon feeding they received when they entered the league. And Buddy was going to be the icing on the cake. Fitzpatrick threw a tantrum and punished us for getting him. All we got when we started in Sydney in the early 80s were a few Sydney street directories given to the players at the airport after they got off the plane.

[wolftone57]

I think the assumption of shuffling deck chairs when u bring in a big time player is only half true

The absence of a significant game winning player means that you are equally shuffling deck chairs just with a different strategy

I mean we are all in the same salary cap and they are used almost always to the max

Both scenarios require enormous success to valid them

They are also able to do this bacause every year they offload a @@@@ load of good players for 1st round draft picks. If you have 3-4 first round picks like they do you can afford to do that

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[wolftone57]

We need to get Ollie back into the mids. Playing inside/outside, like Gulden.

That means we need to trade or draft some good HB flankers. A running flanker who is an actual back, like an Idon. The Hawks guy Jiath? Someone like this. With Buddy, Reid and Hickey (I believe he will retire) retiring, we have space. We move on Clarke & Cunningham and maybe a few more and we have plenty of cap and player space.

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[Blood Fever]

Hope I'm wrong, but Francis doesn't look the goods to me. Lacks intensity and physicality and although he is good aerially, when the ball hits the ground he looks ordinary.

[caj23]

Hope I'm wrong, but Francis doesn't look the goods to me. Lacks intensity and physicality and although he is good aerially, when the ball hits the ground he looks ordinary.

Hang on

So you’re not allowed to say anything negative about Longmire, but you can bag individual players?

I completely disagree with your rant, it’s not Francis’ fault we’ve got so many injuries. If our backline wasn’t undermanned he woundnt have to play as a close checking defender.

He doesn’t have to play physically or intensely because he’s doing a great job down back, so what if we lose? Apparently he’s a fantastic club man and all of the players love him. Who else would do his role better? An untried draftee?

You’re obviously not a true supporter and you’re embarrassing yourself

[Blood Fever]

That's ok. You're allowed to criticize me. I'm a big boy now.

[Thunder Shaker]

it’s not Francis’ fault we’ve got so many injuries. If our backline wasn’t undermanned he woundnt have to play as a close checking defender.

That's the problem when a club has a lot of injuries to a particular type of player. Some of the ones who are left must be played in unfamiliar roles.