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  • KSAS
    Senior Player
    • Mar 2018
    • 1663

    #61
    Originally posted by 707
    FACT - with the new CBA, the Salary Cap jumped significantly last season, this season it is $15.8mill. I figure that Grundy's $650k is 4.1% of our Salary Cap. If Grundy is being paid more this season than the $650k, then it's because we have front ended his contract to give us more cap space in future years.
    That explains reason behind Grundy's extra cap space this season. No change or surprises from his original contract he signed with Collingwood at 7 x $900k.

    HS manufacturing a talking peace to justify their Foxtel show & paper columns.

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    • liz
      Veteran
      Site Admin
      • Jan 2003
      • 16620

      #62
      Originally posted by 707
      That Midweek Tackle show is painful to watch, three poor quality footy journo's bumbling about to try and get a fire going but appearing like they have got their tinder wet!
      It's posts like this - and especially your opening sentence - that make me sad we don't have like (or lurrrve, in this case) buttons on RWO.

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      • Auntie.Gerald
        Veterans List
        • Oct 2009
        • 6467

        #63
        im actually getting sssssssssooooooooooo tired up the media re running with completely different figues a few months later

        maaaaannnnnn the flammability factor of click bate .............rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

        catch a fire

        - - - Updated - - -

        Injury Update: Sheldrick sidelined

        latest update

        Much appreciated Swannies website
        "be tough, only when it gets tough"

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        • Kafka's Ghost
          Regular in the Side
          • Sep 2017
          • 865

          #64
          Originally posted by 707
          That Midweek Tackle show is painful to watch, three poor quality footy journo's bumbling about to try and get a fire going but appearing like they have got their tinder wet!

          The Grundy segment was woeful, they threw around conflicting rubbery figures as to what Grundy was getting paid and made it appear as if Swans are suddenly shocked about his contract. As if! They then threw in the fact we have players to re-sign this season like it was a disaster about to explode that we haven't planned for.

          What a lot of old toss, here are the facts - when we recruited Grundy we knew EXACTLY how much he would cost US over the four years of his contract and we knew EXACTLY how much his separate contract with Collingwood was.

          It was widely reported his original contract at Collingwood was 7 x $900k, a substantial contract AT THAT TIME, before the new CBA was signed. It was widely reported that when Grundy went to Melbourne, they paid $650k pa and Grundy had a separate contract with the Pies for the remainder of 5 x $250k pa. We just mirrored the Melbourne contract when we traded in Grundy, the Pies contract is between Grundy and the Pies.

          FACT - with the new CBA, the Salary Cap jumped significantly last season, this season it is $15.8mill. I figure that Grundy's $650k is 4.1% of our Salary Cap. If Grundy is being paid more this season than the $650k, then it's because we have front ended his contract to give us more cap space in future years.

          There's no cap crisis at the Swans, it's just these TV Muppets trying to find a story "Swans Salary Cap crisis" to promote their show. Full confidence in the club to go about their business as usual.
          Are you saying a Fox run show and paper are spouting BS to create doubt and angst? I’m shocked, I tell you, shocked…????


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          • Ruck'n'Roll
            Ego alta, ergo ictus
            • Nov 2003
            • 3990

            #65
            Originally posted by KSAS
            New Fox Foory Show - Midweek Tackle consisting of rotating HS journalists, last night claimed we now have a Salary Cap Squeeze with Grundy's contract, which is now also a paywall article in the HS this morning (surprise surprise...not).
            I was at the dentist this morning and saw the article in the Tele - no detail just supposition: ie, we didn't give up a first rounder for Grundy therefore we must be shouldering more of his paypacket (1.1 was suggested).

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            • Ruck'n'Roll
              Ego alta, ergo ictus
              • Nov 2003
              • 3990

              #66
              Originally posted by Auntie.Gerald

              Injury Update: Sheldrick sidelined

              latest update

              Much appreciated Swannies website
              Deplorable timing for the kid, with Adams/Mills/Parker out, there were many hoping he'd get a good run in the firsts engine room - rather than a cameo in starvation corner.
              Last edited by Ruck'n'Roll; 18 March 2024, 03:03 AM.

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              • troyjones2525
                Swans Fanatic!
                • Mar 2008
                • 2908

                #67
                I'm just here to say we should have drafted Serong or Flanders instead of Dylan Stephens.... [emoji12]

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                • rb4x
                  Regular in the Side
                  • Dec 2007
                  • 966

                  #68
                  What after Serong only got 46 disposals against the Lions!!!!

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                  • 707
                    Veterans List
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 6204

                    #69
                    Originally posted by rb4x
                    What after Serong only got 46 disposals against the Lions!!!!
                    Shut up, stop twisting the knife!

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                    • The Big Cat
                      On the veteran's list
                      • Apr 2006
                      • 2296

                      #70
                      Originally posted by troyjones2525
                      I'm just here to say we should have drafted Serong or Flanders instead of Dylan Stephens.... [emoji12]

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                      And there are 17 wringing their hands over not picking up Warner etc.
                      Those who have the greatest power to hurt us are those we love.

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                      • Maltopia
                        Senior Player
                        • Apr 2016
                        • 1555

                        #71
                        Originally posted by The Big Cat
                        And there are 17 wringing their hands over not picking up Warner etc.
                        Warner, and Errol, Goodes, Parker and other late gems like Shai Bolton are not equivalents to Stephens/Serrong or to a lesser extent Wombat/JVR.

                        Serrong was also a highly midfielder in the top 5-8 range and he was a Swans supporter.

                        Your recruiters are supposed to spend the most time on your high end draft picks, because they don’t come around very often.

                        Blowing a pick six is not the same as blowing a pick 40, nor is it made up by jagging a top player with a pick 40 (especially if the latter is an academy player that we have inside knowledge of).

                        That said, we can’t always get it right, but the Stephens one really hurts (along with Vespremi and Ling).

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                        • WomblingFree
                          Warming the Bench
                          • Sep 2021
                          • 104

                          #72
                          Originally posted by Maltopia
                          Warner, and Errol, Goodes, Parker and other late gems like Shai Bolton are not equivalents to Stephens/Serrong or to a lesser extent Wombat/JVR.

                          Serrong was also a highly midfielder in the top 5-8 range and he was a Swans supporter.

                          Your recruiters are supposed to spend the most time on your high end draft picks, because they don’t come around very often.

                          Blowing a pick six is not the same as blowing a pick 40, nor is it made up by jagging a top player with a pick 40 (especially if the latter is an academy player that we have inside knowledge of).

                          That said, we can’t always get it right, but the Stephens one really hurts (along with Vespremi and Ling).
                          The sad fact is that with the exception of the Academy players that land on his lap KB has an absolutely appalling record with his top 20 selections.

                          We know all the names so I won't bore people anymore.

                          Let's hope of three year ruckman project plays out....

                          I find the media love of KB quite bizarre given his record to be honest

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                          • The Big Cat
                            On the veteran's list
                            • Apr 2006
                            • 2296

                            #73
                            Originally posted by WomblingFree
                            The sad fact is that with the exception of the Academy players that land on his lap KB has an absolutely appalling record with his top 20 selections.

                            We know all the names so I won't bore people anymore.

                            Let's hope of three year ruckman project plays out....

                            I find the media love of KB quite bizarre given his record to be honest
                            Logan, Ollie, Wilbur?
                            Those who have the greatest power to hurt us are those we love.

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                            • Ruck'n'Roll
                              Ego alta, ergo ictus
                              • Nov 2003
                              • 3990

                              #74
                              Originally posted by WomblingFree
                              The sad fact is that with the exception of the Academy players that land on his lap KB has an absolutely appalling record with his top 20 selections.
                              Any theories as to why?

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                              • Maltopia
                                Senior Player
                                • Apr 2016
                                • 1555

                                #75
                                Originally posted by The Big Cat
                                Logan, Ollie, Wilbur?
                                Vespremi, Ling, Stevens, Rohan, Jones, Lamb, Towers, Johnston?

                                Florent and Wilbur picks, glosses over our major fkup that year where we traded pick 18 for Michael Tahlia.

                                Pick 18 was Sam Powell-Pepper, and pick 19 was Tim English! Both 100+ gamers, the first a top three B&F, and the latter an All Australian ruckman…

                                Impossible to predict, but what a sliding doors moment!

                                If we had kept pick 18 and drafted English, then we wouldn’t have drafted and lost Cameron for unders, we might have stuck with Aliir Aliir instead of allowing his trade, and then getting in Hickey.

                                The Dawson for Ladhams and pick 12 slide back to 16, would have been for different player/draft picks instead too.

                                I guess a lot of it is tied to the Kurt Tippett trade (which also got us a trade ban), which also may have contributed to us losing Tim Membrey.

                                We can never know, but a fun yarn.

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