2025 List Management

[Velour&Ruffles]

The reason i say that (and this could change) Curnow hasnt nominated us specifically, in fact the opposite, we are last choice and while Geelong and Suns are in play, I cant believe we can satisfy Carlton like GC easily could.

Otherwise we are far too comfortable to have Buller and Ladhams OOC after a year where our Fwd line ruined our season.

Im hoping we have something done and it isnt another thing to pile onto our recent form of recruiting incompetence

Maybe JUH is KBs parting swing ?

I sincerely hope not. The guy is a complete Richard Cranium. He may have talent (although I think he has been somewhat overrated in that regard) but he clearly lacks the mental capacity to use whatever talents he has to make it at the highest level. Hard work does not seem to be his forte. Hanging with other Richard Craniums and posting about it on social media is his strong suit.

[lwjoyner]

what about forgetting Curnow, go harder to keep Buller, paybe as has been said before could and has played CHB before . Not sure there are any key defenders (except May bad history) around and so lets try somone from within. Also Snell and Edwardes are defenders and we need to give then a go to see if they can make it. Carmichael one of our academy boys is a defender (aa u18) so must be alright. and h kyle who is also a def/mid from the academy as well as king and Noah chamberlain (not rated yet in any of the power rankings) as i can see.So lets retain Buller with a better deal than Collingwoods.

[UUaswan]

I sincerely hope not. The guy is a complete Richard Cranium. He may have talent (although I think he has been somewhat overrated in that regard) but he clearly lacks the mental capacity to use whatever talents he has to make it at the highest level. Hard work does not seem to be his forte. Hanging with other Richard Craniums and posting about it on social media is his strong suit.

Yeah agree he was done but I think Swans have been into him for years and would be prepared to take the risk.

Swans even got Bullies to sign Naughton long term

[lwjoyner]

now pies have entered Curnow race now is the time that we MUST resing Jack Buller. Surly an extra year or 2 and some more dollars cant be hard to find. We are trying, so it seems, to redo the contract for Amartey who I consider to be just a player, really hot and cold" and Buller has played either end of the ground in his junior days and has rucked as well.

[UUaswan]

now pies have entered Curnow race now is the time that we MUST resing Jack Buller. Surly an extra year or 2 and some more dollars cant be hard to find. We are trying, so it seems, to redo the contract for Amartey who I consider to be just a player, really hot and cold" and Buller has played either end of the ground in his junior days and has rucked as well.

If Amartey gets his body right he is 45+goals, if they believe he can, now is a good time to extend him. The later we leave it and if he is kicking goals, the more you pay.

I want to resign Buller as well and like all our fwds, they benefit by having more talls alongside them.

Mclean at Sydney is marked as a ruck, I'd keep Ladhams over McLean on that basis. More than happy to have Mclean as a fwd but his only resemblance to a ruck is his height.

Be hard a Sydney list manager to convince Ladhams and Buller of opportunities going fwd

[UUaswan]

A 20 and 19yr old, Pick 31 and Pick 42 play well in a Preliminary on their way to a GF.

No Hipwood, Danniher gone, a team that got on with it instead of worrying about what they did and didn't have.

Instead of saying it takes a while for big blokes to come on the coach had the balls to name them.

[KSAS]

Be hard a Sydney list manager to convince Ladhams and Buller of opportunities going fwd

Even if Curnow is out of the picture, Buller will still be thinking where he is in the pecking order when all the tall forwards are available, for senior opportunities moving forward. Can't play all 4 talls together (Armatey, Logan, Maclean & Buller).

Funnily enough, Buller wouldn't have found himself in this position in choosing between us and the Pies had we not finally gave him the opportunity due to our injury crisis, as he well have may up ended up being delisted. It coincided with him overcoming his wretched injury run of previous years. Thought we should've played him earlier in the season, but that is another story.

I wonder what discussions club has had with Buller in regards to senior opportunities, as that is the heart of him signing on rather than length & $$$$ of contract.

With Ladhams, Cox did say on AFL360 during the season that he would play a 2nd ruck should we get rid of the sub and have 5 on the interchange. That is remain to be seen, as he may well now want to prioritise Green given how Buller rose when given the opportunity.

[The_Budds]

These guys have been doing a power rankings countdown - so far 21-50 are public. Still no Max King...

https://readingtheplay.wordpress.com/2025/09/21/2025-draft-power-rankings-21-30/

[dejavoodoo44]

These guys have been doing a power rankings countdown - so far 21-50 are public. Still no Max King...

https://readingtheplay.wordpress.com...ankings-21-30/

And from a quick glance, no Lachlan Carmichael either.

[The_Budds]

And from a quick glance, no Lachlan Carmichael either.

No, although Chamberlain was there at the back end of the rankings

[Ludwig]

As of this moment, the trade period doesn't look a good landscape for our needs. Over the past few years, we've been wanting for depth in KPPs, and have been exposed, this year in the forward line and previously in defense.

I don't think we should rate our forward situation based on a year where our best KPF was out all season, and 2nd best was was close to the same. No team really has the depth to cover that level of injury. I think Logan and Joel are good enough when fit, and McLean if okay as well as a backup. He should be converted to a tall utility. I think McLean could play well down back. I also agree that we should try to hold on to Buller, and he too could be a reasonable tall utility.

There's really not much on the market to improve on this situation. Enough has been said about Curnow. His situation doesn't suit us.

I feel quite confident that Snell will become a good AFL defender and should get some opportunities next year. Edwards was an unfortunate situation, as he too was looking good; hopefully he comes back in good shape this year and continues his progress. Andrew hasn't played enough to assess as yet. Going into next season, our future in defense depends on at least 2 of these guys making it in the AFL, else we will have to test the market next year.

Despite hat's been said about being active in this trade period, I can't see hat we can do that would make much difference. Brandon Starcevich looks the best available target for us, as he's a RFA. I we can recruit him, we could trade on Ollie Florent.

We should sneak in a first round pick before taking Max King, and use that pick to draft the best KPP available at our pick. So that would give us 2 new KPP prospects to add to our list.

Even without improving the side with new recruits, our list looks reasonably strong. There are others that look better, but we are still not bad at all. It's more about finding a system that suits our talent, and putting in the kind of effort that's required to win in tough situations. A lot depends on the coaching and the desire of our players to compete. I really admired how hard Brisbane and Collingwood went at it yesterday. We need to play with that kind of intensity, whoever it might be taking the field in a game.

PS: I got a new 32" HR monitor, so I thought I would give RWO a go again. hopefully the eye strain is not so bad and I can make a contribution from time to time.

[UUaswan]

I think we need to just stick to Academy and trade picks for future or players.

No point drafting a KPP when we don't play them
Green was 2nd best rated big of 2023 and hasn't played or looked like being selected.

Isn't Starcevich 1 knock away from retiring ? 4 yrs 900k rumoured, JMac made him miss heaps of time with an incidental bump, why would anyway bring that risk into your list.

[Ludwig]

I think we need to just stick to Academy and trade picks for future or players.

No point drafting a KPP when we don't play them
Green was 2nd best rated big of 2023 and hasn't played or looked like being selected.

Isn't Starcevich 1 knock away from retiring ? 4 yrs 900k rumoured, JMac made him miss heaps of time with an incidental bump, why would anyway bring that risk into your list.

I like Green's progress and may be ready as our backup ruckman next year, eventually headed for Grundy's replacement. He can play as a KPP, but prefer he concentrate on the ruck position.

We have plenty of depth outside the KPP categories, which is why we should focus on KPPs. I thought Caleb Mitchell was a reasonable prospect with a possible future at AFL level, but we cut him because there was no reasonable prospect for him to make it as a regular in our midfield or backline (where he played this past season .

I agree about the risk with Starcevich, but think he's a very good player. Yes, it would be a risky proposition to recruit him, and if we did, there would have to be some injury retirement provision in his contract. That's why I think there are slim pickings in this post season.

[Thunder Shaker]

Even if Curnow is out of the picture, Buller will still be thinking where he is in the pecking order when all the tall forwards are available, for senior opportunities moving forward. Can't play all 4 talls together (Armatey, Logan, Maclean & Buller).

We can play all four together if one is in defence. Someone mentioned that Buller has played as a defender. Is this a realistic chance?

[Thunder Shaker]

I think Logan and Joel are good enough when fit, and McLean if okay as well as a backup. He should be converted to a tall utility. I think McLean could play well down back.

I'm not sure McLean has the agility to play in defence, especially if opposition forwards are likely to run off him. His contested marking is better in the forward line.

I feel quite confident that Snell will become a good AFL defender and should get some opportunities next year. Edwards was an unfortunate situation, as he too was looking good; hopefully he comes back in good shape this year and continues his progress. Andrew hasn't played enough to assess as yet. Going into next season, our future in defense depends on at least 2 of these guys making it in the AFL, else we will have to test the market next year.

I have been concerned for some time about our lack of experienced tall defenders. These players are in short supply across the competition. This means any key defender will be at a premium if one was available for trade.

I'm hoping that the players you named will make it. None have played a senior game so far.

PS: I got a new 32" HR monitor, so I thought I would give RWO a go again. hopefully the eye strain is not so bad and I can make a contribution from time to time.

It is good to see you posting here again, Ludwig. If you have difficulty reading the screen, have you considered a screen reader?