(Not Such A) Jolly Good Trade Coming (merged Jolly trade thread)

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  • TheGrimReaper
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    • Sep 2007
    • 2203

    Originally posted by Jeffers1984
    Ben Hudson of Adelaide has quit the Cows and is demanding a trade to the Bulldogs. That would probably rule them out of getting the Jollys.
    Why would the Bulldogs want a ruckman that is 30 years old like Hudson for? Wouldn't they want a younger ruckman?

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    • Claret
      Support Staff
      • Sep 2005
      • 1104

      Originally posted by Footylover1
      Why would the Bulldogs want a ruckman that is 30 years old like Hudson for? Wouldn't they want a younger ruckman?
      Doesn't everybody? They don't exactly grow on trees.

      The Doggies need some experience in the ruck and Hudson won't cost them too much at the trade table.
      And the man who started it all, the Schneiderman . . . . .

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      • TheGrimReaper
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        • Sep 2007
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        Originally posted by Claret
        Doesn't everybody? They don't exactly grow on trees.

        The Doggies need some experience in the ruck and Hudson won't cost them too much at the trade table.
        Yeah but 30 years old? What happens if he does another ACL knee injury? That's just wasted money, isn't it?

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        • caj23
          Senior Player
          • Aug 2003
          • 2462

          might be splitting hairs, but he turns 29 next year

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          • Claret
            Support Staff
            • Sep 2005
            • 1104

            Originally posted by Footylover1
            Yeah but 30 years old? What happens if he does another ACL knee injury? That's just wasted money, isn't it?
            What if Spida did an ACL early this year? Would that have meant it was the wrong decision to go for him? You can't base recruitment policies on far-fetched what-ifs.

            And 29 isn't exactly old for a ruckman. The word 'prime' comes to mind.
            And the man who started it all, the Schneiderman . . . . .

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            • hammo
              Veterans List
              • Jul 2003
              • 5554

              C'mon you know how it works. If the Swans pick up a 34 year old ruckman like Spida it's ingenious recruiting but any other club does it and they're a has been and too old.

              Chris Judd is an old, injury prone hack but Adam Goodes is a gun who never plays a bad game.

              Every other player up for trade is either too slow, can't kick, can't hit targets etc but the likes of Jude Bolton, Amon etc are all guns and never miss a target.

              Bevan and Jolly are worth 1st round picks etc...
              "As everyone knows our style of football is defensive and unattractive, and as such I have completely forgotten how to mark or kick over the years" - Brett Kirk

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              • TheGrimReaper
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                • Sep 2007
                • 2203

                Originally posted by Claret
                What if Spida did an ACL early this year? Would that have meant it was the wrong decision to go for him? You can't base recruitment policies on far-fetched what-ifs.

                And 29 isn't exactly old for a ruckman. The word 'prime' comes to mind.

                Yeah ok let's go for another old ruckman like Hudson instead of a young key positioned player like Matthew Maguire. I know who I'll go for and that's Maguire anyday over an older player.

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                • Claret
                  Support Staff
                  • Sep 2005
                  • 1104

                  Originally posted by Footylover1
                  Yeah ok let's go for another old ruckman like Hudson instead of a young key positioned player like Matthew Maguire. I know who I'll go for and that's Maguire anyday over an older player.
                  When was Hudson ever mentioned as a possible pickup for the Swans?
                  And the man who started it all, the Schneiderman . . . . .

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                  • TheGrimReaper
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                    • Sep 2007
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                    I was talking about Hudson moving to the Bulldogs and why would they want him. Unless the threads have been merged again? Post 165 is where it all started.

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                    • TheGrimReaper
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                      • Sep 2007
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                      Originally posted by Claret
                      When was Hudson ever mentioned as a possible pickup for the Swans?
                      I wasn't talking about the Swans wasn't I?

                      I was just asking why would the Bulldogs want Hudson for?

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                      • TheGrimReaper
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                        Originally posted by Dr Diabolical
                        What are you talking about?
                        think about it for a second. It might jump out at you soon enough as clear as day of why teams would prefer Maguire ahead of Hudson.

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                        • Claret
                          Support Staff
                          • Sep 2005
                          • 1104

                          Originally posted by Footylover1
                          think about it for a second. It might jump out at you soon enough as clear as day of why teams would prefer Maguire ahead of Hudson.
                          Just because Goose is a better player doesn't mean that all teams would prefer him. Have you seen the Dogs ruck 'stocks' now that Darcy has retired (not that he played there much this year)? All very young and play as much for Werribee as the firsts.

                          Yes, they need both a KPP and an experienced ruckman but Hudson will cost them a lot less than Goose. In an ideal world they'll end up with both.

                          Perhaps a better question for you is 'Why wouldn't they want Hudson'?
                          And the man who started it all, the Schneiderman . . . . .

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                          • TheGrimReaper
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                            Originally posted by Dr Diabolical
                            There was no suggestion that the Swans should go for Hudson.

                            There has been no suggestion that the Bulldogs are looking at Maguire.

                            Why conflate the two separate suggestions.

                            The link to the Swans was that if the Bulldogs picked up Hudson, they wouldn't want Jolly as well. Nothing to do with Maguire, so why did you compare them?

                            The Bulldogs might want Hudson to give them an experienced ruckman to go with their young ruckmen and they might get him cheap.

                            I'm sorry for even suggesting we should go for Maguire. He's a dud according to you right?

                            The Bulldogs are better off picking up a younger player in the National Draft, have you thought about that suggestion?

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                            • Claret
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                              • Sep 2005
                              • 1104

                              Originally posted by Footylover1
                              The Bulldogs are better off picking up a younger player in the National Draft, have you thought about that suggestion?
                              Have you thought about how long it takes for a ruckman picked up in the National Draft to develop? And before you say that you were talking about a KPP try and remember that they'll probably pick four players.

                              Again, do you not think they are deficient in the ruck?
                              And the man who started it all, the Schneiderman . . . . .

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                              • TheGrimReaper
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                                Originally posted by Claret
                                Have you thought about how long it takes for a ruckman picked up in the National Draft to develop? And before you say that you were talking about a KPP try and remember that they'll probably pick four players.

                                Again, do you not think they are deficient in the ruck?
                                Like I said, what happens if Hudson turns out to be no good?

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