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  • hammo
    Veterans List
    • Jul 2003
    • 5554

    Originally posted by Annie Haddad

    Seriously, I don't care that it's benny boy - if it were one of our players, I'd be just as disgusted.
    If Adam Goodes was caught with an ecstasy tablet would you really be carrying on the same way?

    I don't condone anything Ben Cousins has done, but I can understand why some Eagles fans, especially the young ones, would be more than a bit confused at what's happening.

    As for the Eagles' just cutting him loose, I would say that would be the absolutely worst thing for them to do. Sure he may never play football again, but to be cut him adrift from the club he's been at for his entire adult life would be a devastating blow right now.

    People should temper their anger, and for some their joy, with the fact that the AFL world and WCE as his employer still owe Cousins a duty of care.
    "As everyone knows our style of football is defensive and unattractive, and as such I have completely forgotten how to mark or kick over the years" - Brett Kirk

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    • Damien
      Living in 2005
      • Jan 2003
      • 3713

      Cousins is a total idiot and I no longer have a shred of sympathy for him.

      I was at his comeback match this year, he is truly loved and adored by the Perth public, he was given a 2nd chance and blown it. Given opportunities so many in society would give anything for.

      I would feel the same way about any Swans player in the same situation, it is so disapointing.

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      • AnnieH
        RWOs Black Sheep
        • Aug 2006
        • 11332

        Originally posted by hammo
        If Adam Goodes was caught with an ecstasy tablet would you really be carrying on the same way?

        I don't condone anything Ben Cousins has done, but I can understand why some Eagles fans, especially the young ones, would be more than a bit confused at what's happening.

        As for the Eagles' just cutting him loose, I would say that would be the absolutely worst thing for them to do. Sure he may never play football again, but to be cut him adrift from the club he's been at for his entire adult life would be a devastating blow right now.

        People should temper their anger, and for some their joy, with the fact that the AFL world and WCE as his employer still owe Cousins a duty of care.
        Goodsey is a bad example. It's like chalk and cheese. Like someone said on BF last night, if Roosey found out that one of our players was on the gear - all hell would break lose. If Goodsey was caught with a tablet, he'd be copping it just as bad - probably worse. But we all know that Goodsey's not like that.

        RE the AFL and the WCE as his empolyer ... did Dalton offer him drugs?? Have I missed something here? They did somewhat attend to their duty of care. They sent him to rehab. They TRUSTED him to do the right thing.

        IMO, they slipped in their duty of care by allowing him to play again. At the end of the day, there was really no "punishment" paid for his indescretions and the disrepute he brought to the club and to the game.

        He's being punished now. The WHOLE COUNTRY is talking about him and his problems this morning. It is BIG news. If the AFL don't handle this properly there will be huge ramifications from this, e.g. sponsorships, etc.
        Wild speculation, unsubstantiated rumours, silly jokes and opposition delight in another's failures is what makes an internet forum fun.
        Blessed are the cracked for they are the ones who let in the light.

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        • Chow-Chicker
          Senior Player
          • Jun 2006
          • 1602

          Originally posted by hammo
          If Adam Goodes was caught with an ecstasy tablet would you really be carrying on the same way?

          I don't condone anything Ben Cousins has done, but I can understand why some Eagles fans, especially the young ones, would be more than a bit confused at what's happening.

          As for the Eagles' just cutting him loose, I would say that would be the absolutely worst thing for them to do. Sure he may never play football again, but to be cut him adrift from the club he's been at for his entire adult life would be a devastating blow right now.

          People should temper their anger, and for some their joy, with the fact that the AFL world and WCE as his employer still owe Cousins a duty of care.
          Well I disagree there. WCE owe nothing to Ben Cousins when he has continually lied and mistreated them. It's about time Cousins actually suffers the consequences of his actions - something that is yet to happen.

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          • Industrial Fan
            Goodesgoodesgoodesgoodes!
            • Aug 2006
            • 3317

            Originally posted by hammo
            If Adam Goodes was caught with an ecstasy tablet would you really be carrying on the same way?

            I don't condone anything Ben Cousins has done, but I can understand why some Eagles fans, especially the young ones, would be more than a bit confused at what's happening.

            As for the Eagles' just cutting him loose, I would say that would be the absolutely worst thing for them to do. Sure he may never play football again, but to be cut him adrift from the club he's been at for his entire adult life would be a devastating blow right now.

            People should temper their anger, and for some their joy, with the fact that the AFL world and WCE as his employer still owe Cousins a duty of care.
            The response would be different, but it would also be different if it was someone who was respected like Scott West, Brad Johnson. So Goodes is a bad example.

            If it was Davis on the other hand....

            The Eagles should have done more for him in 06 when they knew about his habits. The culture of sweeping everything under the carpet has caught up with them, and as an administration they deserve everything that happens. On a personal level you would hope that his life is not destroyed - but it would be nice to see some humility at some stage.
            He ate more cheese, than time allowed

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            • hammo
              Veterans List
              • Jul 2003
              • 5554

              Originally posted by Annie Haddad

              He's being punished now. The WHOLE COUNTRY is talking about him and his problems this morning. It is BIG news. If the AFL don't handle this properly there will be huge ramifications from this, e.g. sponsorships, etc.
              There are also health and personal well-being ramifications if this is handled poorly.

              I'm reminded of what Mathew Johns said when his brother was arrested...

              "Knowing Andrew and his reckless behaviour, I thought he was dead," Matthew Johns said.

              "I thought 'this is the phone call I've been waiting for'.

              "And to be honest, when he told me he'd been arrested for drugs, it sounds strange, but I was relieved."
              "As everyone knows our style of football is defensive and unattractive, and as such I have completely forgotten how to mark or kick over the years" - Brett Kirk

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              • AnnieH
                RWOs Black Sheep
                • Aug 2006
                • 11332

                Originally posted by hammo
                There are also health and personal well-being ramifications if this is handled poorly.

                I'm reminded of what Mathew Johns said when his brother was arrested...


                http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2...31/2020155.htm

                Maybe this is just what benny needs.

                Wonder how SGIO are feeling today? Will they do what TAC did to Richmond?
                Wild speculation, unsubstantiated rumours, silly jokes and opposition delight in another's failures is what makes an internet forum fun.
                Blessed are the cracked for they are the ones who let in the light.

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                • Chow-Chicker
                  Senior Player
                  • Jun 2006
                  • 1602

                  Originally posted by hammo
                  There are also health and personal well-being ramifications if this is handled poorly.

                  I'm reminded of what Mathew Johns said when his brother was arrested...


                  http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2...31/2020155.htm
                  Any adverse health reaction would be self inflicted. However, his dangerous habits could kill someone totally innocent. That is far more tragic.

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                  • Allymay
                    On the Rookie List
                    • Sep 2007
                    • 298

                    I dislike the Eagles as much as the next Swans supporter and the disappointing thing about this saga is that here is a young man with the world at his feet, Brownlow medal, premiership medal, captain of an AFL club, obvious sporting talent and he has thrown it all away for the sake of getting a buzz from elsewhere. I'm sure there are a lot of young footballers who never made it into AFL who would love to have been in the position that he was, without the substances of course. The fact that it has all been wasted is just very disappointing.
                    I might have a slight drinking problem. My husband asked me to toast some bread for him...so I raised my wine glass and said "Here's to bread!"

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                    • AnnieH
                      RWOs Black Sheep
                      • Aug 2006
                      • 11332

                      Ben Cousins: Highs & Lows

                      More lows than highs.
                      Wild speculation, unsubstantiated rumours, silly jokes and opposition delight in another's failures is what makes an internet forum fun.
                      Blessed are the cracked for they are the ones who let in the light.

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                      • Sanecow
                        Suspended by the MRP
                        • Mar 2003
                        • 6917

                        Originally posted by Captain
                        Once again using the same line, getting a bit dry now. As is your constant love for all things Eagles.
                        I have no love for the Eagles. Onfield, Hunter is my least favourite AFL player and I'm sure you can dig up some post-match anti-Benny comments from me. But I do miss the on-field villains when they pass their peak.

                        I don't mix up my interest in sporting rivalry with wishing harm on an actual human being or enjoying the results of addiction. It's just kicking a pig skin between four sticks FFS. Drugs don't care that Cousins has fans, addiction isn't easier to kick because you have money and a young man who could be a sporting great losing it all doesn't give me any satisfaction. I hope the AFLPA are looking out for him.

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                        • Chow-Chicker
                          Senior Player
                          • Jun 2006
                          • 1602

                          Originally posted by Schneiderpig
                          I dislike the Eagles as much as the next Swans supporter and the disappointing thing about this saga is that here is a young man with the world at his feet, Brownlow medal, premiership medal, captain of an AFL club, obvious sporting talent and he has thrown it all away for the sake of getting a buzz from elsewhere. I'm sure there are a lot of young footballers who never made it into AFL who would love to have been in the position that he was, without the substances of course. The fact that it has all been wasted is just very disappointing.
                          He is just a weak, selfish individual. A Bummer mate of mine a few weeks ago mentioned something David Hille said about Mark Bolton who announced his retirement at their B & F night....

                          "It's a shame that stories like Mark Bolton who spends his spare time helping homeless and underpriveledged kids finding a home and some hope, who has been able to raise funds to build an establishment for 15 homeless kids and services for 150 more, doesn't get mentioned in the papers in the same way as the selfish, indulgent few."

                          I thought those words were quite outstanding - and sad really.

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                          • Sanecow
                            Suspended by the MRP
                            • Mar 2003
                            • 6917

                            Originally posted by Chow-Chicker
                            He is just a weak, selfish individual.
                            OK, so drug addiction only affects the weak and selfish. Good to know.

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                            • Allymay
                              On the Rookie List
                              • Sep 2007
                              • 298

                              Originally posted by Chow-Chicker
                              He is just a weak, selfish individual. A Bummer mate of mine a few weeks ago mentioned something David Hille said about Mark Bolton who announced his retirement at their B & F night....

                              "It's a shame that stories like Mark Bolton who spends his spare time helping homeless and underpriveledged kids finding a home and some hope, who has been able to raise funds to build an establishment for 15 homeless kids and services for 150 more, doesn't get mentioned in the papers in the same way as the selfish, indulgent few."

                              I thought those words were quite outstanding - and sad really.
                              Agreed. What about adulation for a player like Adam Ramanuskas? (I hope I spelt that right??) He has overcome a potentially life threatening illness, which wasn't his fault at all, to be back playing in the big time. Guys like Adam and Mark Bolton should be the heroes. Maybe hard luck stories sell more papers than feel good stories??
                              I might have a slight drinking problem. My husband asked me to toast some bread for him...so I raised my wine glass and said "Here's to bread!"

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                              • Sanecow
                                Suspended by the MRP
                                • Mar 2003
                                • 6917

                                If only Cousins' medical problem was cancer and not addiction he would be a hero.

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