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  • NMWBloods
    Taking Refuge!!
    • Jan 2003
    • 15819

    Originally posted by BBB
    You must have found it hard to sleep last night NMW, so excited knowing that you'd be able to reply saying the same thing a dozen times in this thread, all the time sticking the knife into Barry Hall.
    I'm pointing out the same thing because the same comments get trotted out again - a dozen is a slight exaggeration for 3 or 4. Unnecessary and innaccurate of you to impugn motives or emotions though.

    I found it to be a very unpleasant experience and left a sour taste in my mouth for the rest of the night. It was hardly enjoyable or exciting.

    One plus though is that in future backmen will think twice before grappling with Hall.
    Last edited by NMWBloods; 13 April 2008, 10:58 AM.
    Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.

    "[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."

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    • TheGrimReaper
      Suspended by the MRP
      • Sep 2007
      • 2203

      Originally posted by BBB
      You must have found it hard to sleep last night NMW, so excited knowing that you'd be able to reply saying the same thing a dozen times in this thread, all the time sticking the knife into Barry Hall.
      People like Lobster and Bloods are waiting for us to fail. And because we're winning, it hurts their pride.

      They were negative last week against Brisbane, and the week before against Port Adelaide.

      They are praying for a huge loss against Geelong, to justify their beliefs.

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      • WASwansFanatic
        Up the mighty swannies!!!
        • Mar 2003
        • 440

        Originally posted by NMWBloods
        I'm pointing out the same thing because the same comments get trotted out again - a dozen is a slight exaggeration for 3 or 4. Unnecessary and innaccurate of you to impugn motives or emotions though.

        I found it to be a very unpleasant experience and left a sour taste in my mouth for the rest of the night. It was hardly enjoyable or exciting.

        One plus though is that in future backmen will think twice before grappling with Hall.
        Agree....agree....and agree....

        Normally if we thrashed the eagles or any side by that much I would be ecstatic but I am flatter than a tack..

        He was just coming back to form....and he does this.....gutted..

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        • monopoly19
          Senior Player
          • Aug 2003
          • 1098

          Originally posted by NMWBloods
          I still wonder if people would think it was justifiable if the roles were reverse (like if Akker had decked Crouch).
          Not sure why you're saying this in reply to what I said. I say 4-6 weeks and you imply that I think it's justifiable. If I thought it was justifiable I would have said that he should get off.

          Believe it or not, most of us are able to separate our love of a Swans player with the fact that he made a bad decision and will be suspended for it.

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          • Triple B
            Formerly 'BBB'
            • Feb 2003
            • 6999

            Originally posted by NMWBloods
            I'm pointing out the same thing because the same comments get trotted out again - a dozen is a slight exaggeration for 3 or 4. Unnecessary and innaccurate of you to impugn motives or emotions though.

            I found it to be a very unpleasant experience and left a sour taste in my mouth for the rest of the night. It was hardly enjoyable or exciting.

            One plus though is that in future backmen will think twice before grappling with Hall.
            How many times are you going to edit your post????

            I've had 2 replies ready and twice you've edited your post. Let us know when you're finished.
            Driver of the Dan Hannebery bandwagon....all aboard. 4th April 09

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            • NMWBloods
              Taking Refuge!!
              • Jan 2003
              • 15819

              Originally posted by monopoly19
              Not sure why you're saying this in reply to what I said. I say 4-6 weeks and you imply that I think it's justifiable. If I thought it was justifiable I would have said that he should get off.

              Believe it or not, most of us are able to separate our love of a Swans player with the fact that he made a bad decision and will be suspended for it.
              I'm not sure why I wrote that in response to your quote as I agreed with your comments. I think I meant it to be part of my first response in that post. I've edited it to make more sense now.
              Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.

              "[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."

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              • DST
                The voice of reason!
                • Jan 2003
                • 2705

                Channel 9 footy show were actually very reserved, the verdicts ranged from 2 1/2 to 4 weeks from the panel.

                What may be the deciding factor will be if Stacker's jaw is broken or not.

                In any event Dr Larkins beleives Hall's wrist to be broken and he will miss 6 to 8 from that.

                DST
                "Looking forward to a rebuilt, new, fast and exciting Swans model in 2010"

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                • Legs Akimbo
                  Grand Poobah
                  • Apr 2005
                  • 2809

                  Originally posted by ROK Lobster
                  Would it have been OK then if Kerr floored Jack?
                  You did not read the post properly. I am not justifying what he did. In fact, I deliberately started my post by saying it is not a mitigating factor. I am merely seeking to understand what might have caused what is a despicable act by Hall.

                  I am raising a secondary issue, which is that the umpire was watching Hall being infringed and deliberately ignored it. After this going on for so many years, I think it was this that made Hall snap. He was filthy abut it, reached the end of his tether, snapped. Grossly selfish and undisciplined, but the umpire, whoever it was, in some way contributed to the outcome by inciting it.
                  He had observed that people who did lie were, on the whole, more resourceful and ambitious and successful than people who did not lie.

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                  • Big Al
                    Veterans List
                    • Feb 2005
                    • 7007

                    Originally posted by CureTheSane
                    I think that is going a bit too far.
                    It was in the heat of the moment.
                    A 'dog act' might be a more appropriate description for a king hit that was premeditated and purposefully applied in a surprisal way.
                    Heat of the moment or not, it was still a low act on a player who was looking away at the time and couldn't defend himself.
                    Last edited by Big Al; 13 April 2008, 11:53 AM.
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                    • stellation
                      scott names the planets
                      • Sep 2003
                      • 9718

                      I don't really agree with footballers being held accountable for their off field indiscretions, but I do hope Hall is held accountable by the club for this on field one. The Swans have marketed him heavily, and a large part of that marketing is directed at children.

                      Little kids love him, this morning I seriously had to bring in a team of 7 year olds who were talking up Hall and his punch and I made sure that they understood he did the wrong thing. I'd be very suprised if I was the only Auskick or junior football coach having that same conversation this morning.

                      That and it made me lose 5 minutes of training time! Do they understand how hard it is to run even close to time with little kids, let alone having to, god forbid, TALK TO THEM!???!??!!?!?!?
                      Last edited by stellation; 13 April 2008, 12:30 PM.
                      I knew him as a gentle young man, I cannot say for sure the reasons for his decline
                      We watched him fade before our very eyes, and years before his time

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                      • ernie koala
                        Senior Player
                        • May 2007
                        • 3251

                        Originally posted by monopoly19
                        I've been watching it over and over on Youtube, and it's just so bizarre. He wasn't even looking at Staker when he did it, but it didn't look like it was meant to be a scare tactic either.

                        I think it was a poor act, but I can't quite bring myself to feel the moral outrage that some here do. He was being niggled and reacted badly and should be suspended for 4-6 weeks. I reckon he must be hating himself right about now.
                        What, a level headed response Couldn't agree more.
                        This is the type of story that lazy sports journo's jump all over, they can feed the masses with sanctamonious crap for at least a week, it's great copy.
                        Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it's time to pause and reflect... MT

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                        • 2005
                          : IN THE OUTER :
                          • Dec 2007
                          • 604

                          Originally posted by stellation
                          I don't really agree with footballers being held accountable for their off field indiscretions, but I do hope Hall is held accountable by the club for this on field one. The Swans have marketed him heavily, and a large part of that marketing is directed at children.

                          Little kids love him, this morning I seriously had to bring in a team of 7 year olds who were talking up Hall and his punch and I make sure that they understood he did the wrong thing. I'd be very suprised if I was the only Auskick or junior football coach having that same conversation this morning.

                          That and it made me lose 5 minutes of training time! Do they understand how hard it is to run even close to time with little kids, let alone having to, god forbid, TALK TO THEM!???!??!!?!?!?
                          Stell Ive just come, back from AusKick as well and your right.
                          Our kids thought it was cool what Barry did including my young bloke.
                          You really can see first hand what impact this has on kids at a tender age.
                          Est 1874
                          SMFC
                          09.18.33.2005

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                          • liz
                            Veteran
                            Site Admin
                            • Jan 2003
                            • 16733

                            Maybe part of his punishment should be going round to as many Auskick clinics as he can get to in the next 8 weeks and tell them himself that what he did was stupid.

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                            • NMWBloods
                              Taking Refuge!!
                              • Jan 2003
                              • 15819

                              Originally posted by liz
                              Maybe part of his punishment should be going round to as many Auskick clinics as he can get to in the next 8 weeks and tell them himself that what he did was stupid.
                              I like that. I bet Hall would contrite enough to be more than happy to do that.
                              Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.

                              "[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."

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                              • Zlatorog
                                Senior Player
                                • Jan 2006
                                • 1748

                                Originally posted by liz
                                Maybe part of his punishment should be going round to as many Auskick clinics as he can get to in the next 8 weeks and tell them himself that what he did was stupid.
                                Not bad idea liz. Have you consider nominated yourself for the Swans Board?

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