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  • Nico
    Veterans List
    • Jan 2003
    • 11343

    Josh Who?
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    • bloodspirit
      Clubman
      • Apr 2015
      • 4448

      I have belatedly come across this good piece of analysis from Hurling People Now (https://hurlingpeoplenow.wordpress.c...id-afldraft/):

      We were pretty surprised that Josh Dunkley was not matched by the Swans at 25. Sydney had the points to do so without deficit, so perhaps they did indeed make the call, as predicted by several journalists, to let him go as part of a side-deal to let him stay in Victoria (or even as a quid pro quo for getting Talia for free, not that we?re suggesting that such shenanigans ever occur).

      As the Swans tell it, they wanted good accurate kicks and thus preferred to run with live picks at 51 and 56. That?s certainly plausible enough to head off any allegations of impropriety, and it?s where they once secured Nick Malceski, but it does raise the question as to why get him to nominate at all. The more ruthless approach would have been to draft him and then trade him home next year, presumably for a pick better than 51.


      Interesting to see (a) the possible link with getting Talia cheaply; and (b) the well made point that, even if we didn't have a great use for Dunkley ourselves, if we had have been ruthless we could have drafted him and then traded him back south for a better pick. However, it makes perfect sense that we didn't because we did have a deal with him not to match a bid from a Victorian club (which I think has since been confirmed), else he needn't have nominated as a father-son at all. In that case it is vital for our reputation that we stuck by our word - thus, not a lack of ruthlessness.

      Anyway, we are yet to see how Leonardis and Dawson pan out. If one of them comes good we may yet be vindicated.
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      • Ludwig
        Veterans List
        • Apr 2007
        • 9359

        There may have been an understanding that if Dunkley were drafted by a non-Victorian club, we would have taken him. Or perhaps if he dropped to a much lower draft pack, say around 40, we might have picked him as well. There was no certainty at all that Dunkley would be available at the Bulldogs' pick, so the link to Talia is tenuous.

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        • liz
          Veteran
          Site Admin
          • Jan 2003
          • 16786

          Originally posted by Ludwig
          There may have been an understanding that if Dunkley were drafted by a non-Victorian club, we would have taken him. Or perhaps if he dropped to a much lower draft pack, say around 40, we might have picked him as well. There was no certainty at all that Dunkley would be available at the Bulldogs' pick, so the link to Talia is tenuous.
          Exactly - the link with Talia is creative, to say the least.

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          • The Big Cat
            On the veteran's list
            • Apr 2006
            • 2360

            Doubt he'd get a game in our best side anyway.
            Those who have the greatest power to hurt us are those we love.

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            • caj23
              Senior Player
              • Aug 2003
              • 2462

              Originally posted by The Big Cat
              Doubt he'd get a game in our best side anyway.
              He'd certainly be on the fringe, has shown just as much if not more than Foote, Robinson and co, with the ability to play forward or back. Obviously his kicking is a big issue and the fact that he is more of what we already have a surplus of.

              I would have preferred we had him on our list as opposed to not, he's a much safer bet than Dawson or Leonardis, and they may have been available with our later picks anyway

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              • Auntie.Gerald
                Veterans List
                • Oct 2009
                • 6483

                Two words

                Salary cap

                We couldn't keep Mitchell ......... I think it would be very difficult to keep Dunkley as well

                Mills will be like heeney ie a big contract so to jones
                "be tough, only when it gets tough"

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                • stevoswan
                  Veterans List
                  • Sep 2014
                  • 8573

                  Originally posted by Auntie.Gerald
                  Two words

                  Salary cap

                  We couldn't keep Mitchell ......... I think it would be very difficult to keep Dunkley as well

                  Mills will be like heeney ie a big contract so to jones
                  Exactly, we have what he offers covered anyway and thanks to our club's integrity, he's a premiership player now, so good luck to him. Now we deserve some of that good karma to come back to us, in the form of this years flag.

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                  • CureTheSane
                    Carpe Noctem
                    • Jan 2003
                    • 5032

                    Easy to say the Swans should have drafted him then traded back to Vic at 'a profit' but the assumption is that he would play as well as he has.
                    And that's a big call when drafting a player.
                    The difference between insanity and genius is measured only in success.

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                    • S.S. Bleeder
                      Senior Player
                      • Sep 2014
                      • 2165

                      Does anyone know the latest on Kyle Dunkley? Is he playing for Gippsland this year? Do we have any interest in him? My understanding a couple of years ago was that he had more potential than Josh.

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