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  • jono2707
    Goes up to 11
    • Oct 2007
    • 3326

    Originally posted by Bennymno4
    Ehhh? All players play to win flags, why is that lazy and selfish? Because he wants to go to the club that gives him the best chance.

    Ridiculous comment
    Thanks for the feedback - very sorry if my dislike of this whole affair causes offence. I don't want us to get him and I haven't seen or heard too much from Tippett and his camp that makes me think I would want to cheer him on as a blood next year.

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    • Jewels
      On the Rookie List
      • Oct 2006
      • 3258

      Originally posted by mariachi
      Here's hoping GWS get him. Great for PR and the rivalry, and great for the Swans. At $1mill a year it seems to me that he throws the whole team's player value equation out. How do you value a Smith or Jack or Hannebery or Kennedy or any of our team of players against someone we don't even know will fit in? All our Bloods have earned their spots by embracing the culture. Tippett may have runs on the board elsewhere, but given his conduct through this sorry saga, for me he's an unknown.. And at GWS he'd serve the Premiership purgatory that he deserves for trying to cheat. Good riddance (although maybe he'd work out at $500K!)
      Tippett can ask a mil a year for the same reason Cloke or Buddy could - power forwards are a rare commodity, and if someone offered you a mil a year wouldn't you take it?
      And what conduct through this sorry saga? He hasn't said a thing and I would have thought that the best way to handle it.

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      • Bennymno4
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        • Sep 2012
        • 116

        Originally posted by jono2707
        Thanks for the feedback - very sorry if my dislike of this whole affair causes offence. I don't want us to get him and I haven't seen or heard too much from Tippett and his camp that makes me think I would want to cheer him on as a blood next year.
        No offence, just little understanding of why blokes play footy.

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        • DeadlyAkkuret
          Veterans List
          • Oct 2006
          • 4547

          Originally posted by jono2707
          Thanks for the feedback - very sorry if my dislike of this whole affair causes offence. I don't want us to get him and I haven't seen or heard too much from Tippett and his camp that makes me think I would want to cheer him on as a blood next year.
          Yet, if he is a blood next year, you will cheer him on.

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          • aardvark
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            • Mar 2010
            • 5685

            Originally posted by jono2707
            Thanks for the feedback - very sorry if my dislike of this whole affair causes offence. I don't want us to get him and I haven't seen or heard too much from Tippett and his camp that makes me think I would want to cheer him on as a blood next year.
            I have to agree with Jono. I just rewatched the Crows final and Tippett was not worth two bob. I imagine a few of our blokes would be questioning why he'd be paid 800k+ per year.

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            • Bennymno4
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              • Sep 2012
              • 116

              Originally posted by aardvark
              I have to agree with Jono. I just rewatched the Crows final and Tippett was not worth two bob. I imagine a few of our blokes would be questioning why he'd be paid 800k+ per year.
              Different argument entirely. You can argue his value sure. It is naive in the extreme to say it is 'selfish and lazy' just because he wants to be traded to a club that has a chance of winning a flag. Especially as he wants to leave Adelaide. It shows little understanding of why any player plays the game.

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              • PerthSwannie
                Regular in the Side
                • Jun 2006
                • 523

                Originally posted by aardvark
                I have to agree with Jono. I just rewatched the Crows final and Tippett was not worth two bob. I imagine a few of our blokes would be questioning why he'd be paid 800k+ per year.
                I think LRT had him wrapped up so tight he couldn`t move. LRT was magic on that day.
                Even Santa follows the Swannies.

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                • Primmy
                  Proud Tragic Swan
                  • Apr 2008
                  • 5970

                  Originally posted by PerthSwannie
                  I think LRT had him wrapped up so tight he couldn`t move. LRT was magic on that day.
                  Maybe he just wanted the Swans to win 'cos he loves us?
                  If you've never jumped from one couch to the other to save yourself from lava then you didn't have a childhood

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                  • jono2707
                    Goes up to 11
                    • Oct 2007
                    • 3326

                    Originally posted by Bennymno4
                    No offence, just little understanding of why blokes play footy.
                    Hmmm not sure why you think you know what I do and don't know. I do know one thing - I saw a group of 22 guys who looked like they had the right attitude a bit over a month ago.....

                    As for cheering him - I don't think I'll have to. But if I do have to, I probably will. I reckon quite a few of us aren't all that sure of what to make of this whole schemozzle and what to think of the guy...

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                    • Bennymno4
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                      • Sep 2012
                      • 116

                      Originally posted by jono2707
                      Hmmm not sure why you think you know what I do and don't know. I do know one thing - I saw a group of 22 guys who looked like they had the right attitude a bit over a month ago.....

                      As for cheering him - I don't think I'll have to. But if I do have to, I probably will. I reckon quite a few of us aren't all that sure of what to make of this whole schemozzle and what to think of the guy...
                      Stop trying to move the goal posts. Describing a player as 'lazy and selfish' for simply wanting to maximise his chance of winning a flag is ridiculous and exhibits a lack of understanding of why people actually play football. The bloke can't win, he's either after money or 'lazy and selfish' because he wants to win a flag. Every bloke in the comp wants to win a flag. It was a stupid thing to say.

                      The rest is just lots of babble.

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                      • jono2707
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                        • Oct 2007
                        • 3326

                        Originally posted by Bennymno4
                        Stop trying to move the goal posts. Describing a player as 'lazy and selfish' for simply wanting to maximise his chance of winning a flag is ridiculous and exhibits a lack of understanding of why people actually play football. The bloke can't win, he's either after money or 'lazy and selfish' because he wants to win a flag. Every bloke in the comp wants to win a flag. It was a stupid thing to say.

                        The rest is just lots of babble.
                        No worries. RWO is good because people can express opinions and have a decent debate about a range of topics. "I don't agree...." or "actually I think...." or "on the other hand..." etc etc are examples of healthy and respectful debate.

                        I was probably a bit over the top in my description of Tippett earlier.

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                        • Ludwig
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                          • Apr 2007
                          • 9359

                          Tippett's motivations during his AFC days and his desire to come to the Swans are not at all clear. On this account, I am willing to give him the benefit of the doubt. His on-field attitude always seemed professional. Lot's of footy teams must think he's okay, since they seem willing to throw a lot of money at him. His market value is fairly well established at around $800k, as this is what Adelaide were giving him and was around what other clubs were offering as well. That translates to $880k for us with our COLA.

                          No question that Tippett is a quality player that would help the Swans fill its most critical need. But is he good value for money? Whenever you're laying out that much cash it's natural to second guess yourself. I am very unsure and quite ambivalent about this deal, and would feel okay anyway it goes. It's the sort of thing that can best be evaluated a year down the road.

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                          • Bennymno4
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                            • Sep 2012
                            • 116

                            Originally posted by jono2707
                            I was probably a bit over the top in my description of Tippett earlier.
                            I agree

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                            • Jewels
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                              • Oct 2006
                              • 3258

                              Originally posted by jono2707
                              Hmmm not sure why you think you know what I do and don't know. I do know one thing - I saw a group of 22 guys who looked like they had the right attitude a bit over a month ago.....

                              As for cheering him - I don't think I'll have to. But if I do have to, I probably will. I reckon quite a few of us aren't all that sure of what to make of this whole schemozzle and what to think of the guy...
                              Jono, you and I are obviously on different sides of the fence as far as Tippett is concerned, but I think you've hit the nail on the head in your last sentence.

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                              • Triple B
                                Formerly 'BBB'
                                • Feb 2003
                                • 6999

                                Originally posted by Bennymno4
                                I agree
                                As do I.

                                I'm finding it pretty bizarre that Swans fans are turning on Tippett now. For what?

                                Tippett came out of contract with what he thought was a binding agreement to go to his club of choice. He weighed up his options and chose the Swans. When questioned, he mentioned the club, the culture and the excellent chance of winning a flag. We should feel proud as a supporter to hear players from other clubs say that. Indeed, if every player in the AFL came out of contract tomorrow and were allowed to nominate a club to play for, I'd be willing to bet a fair bit that the Swans would be the most nominated club hands down for exactly those reasons that Tippett expressed. Luke Hodge's first sentence in his GF speech spoke volumes "You're not only a well respected side, you're a well liked side"....

                                So now, it has dragged on way longer than anybody would have liked, Tippett has said NOTHING since he informed Adelaide of his wishes, but some Swans fans want to stick it to him??? Stick it to Adelaide and his management, but until the investigation proves that Tippett was complicit in the dodgy dealings which happened 3 years ago, I just view him as a good player who wants to play for the club we love.

                                As Benny said, the money issue and whether he is worth it is a seperate argument, but Tippett doesn't deserve to be pitchforked because he has asked an amount that it appears at least 4 clubs are willing to pay and a fair few more would if they could fit it into their salary cap...
                                Driver of the Dan Hannebery bandwagon....all aboard. 4th April 09

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