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  • GordonS
    On the Rookie List
    • May 2013
    • 129

    #76
    tippett in derickx out. cant make many changes after a win against a quality side. have to drop a big man with a another big man coming in, otherwise we're too tall. this will give b jack and lloyd (or are with going with J-Lo, haha) another go to build some form

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    • DamY
      Senior Player
      • Sep 2011
      • 1479

      #77
      I am assuming a forward will come out. Will Harry stay down back? Isn't that where he was for most of last weeks game?

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      • ShockOfHair
        One Man Out
        • Dec 2007
        • 3668

        #78
        Originally posted by ugg
        When was the last time LRT was dropped for form or structural reasons? I'd back him to be one of the first picked in the team every week. He's not going anywhere.

        Compared with the number of times people have called for him to be dropped. He's not the greatest tap ruckman or set shot, but he's a really good defender, a strong mark, makes his tackles stick and is a very, very hard matchup. One of my favourites for his all-round handiness and unassumingness.

        Anyway, Longmire suggesting that we might play Tippett and Reid AND Goodes this week. Even if all fit, can our forward line digest three new talls? Surely he's just messing with Roosy's well-coiffured head.
        AFL: Sam Reid also chance to return for Swans

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        Originally posted by ugg
        When was the last time LRT was dropped for form or structural reasons? I'd back him to be one of the first picked in the team every week. He's not going anywhere.

        Compared with the number of times people have called for him to be dropped. He's not the greatest tap ruckman or set shot, but he's a really good defender, a strong mark, makes his tackles stick and is a very, very hard matchup. One of my favourites for his all-round handiness and unassumingness.

        Anyway, Longmire suggesting that we might play Tippett and Reid AND Goodes this week. Even if all fit, can our forward line digest three new talls? Surely he's just messing with Roosy's well-coiffured head.
        http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/afl-sam-reid-also-chance-to-return-for-swans-20140421-zqxe0.html
        The man who laughs has not yet heard the terrible news

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        • ernie koala
          Senior Player
          • May 2007
          • 3251

          #79
          This will be interesting, I'll have a stab at it...If they all have a good week of training/ pulling up, then....

          IN : Tippett, Reid, Goodes(as sub)

          OUT : Derrickx, Laidler, Lloyd(unlucky, but it is for Goodsey)

          Not sure any of my 3 'outs' deserve to be dropped, but the caliber of the 'ins' demand it.
          Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it's time to pause and reflect... MT

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          • bloodsbigot
            Regular in the Side
            • Mar 2010
            • 813

            #80
            Originally posted by ugg
            When was the last time LRT was dropped for form or structural reasons? I'd back him to be one of the first picked in the team every week. He's not going anywhere.
            Even though he's not the flashiest player, LRT is one of the swans most valued players. Sooo underrated... probably due to the fact that he's not really a major possession winner but does work off the ball.

            Wouldn't it be funny if he became the only swan EVER to win 3 premierships if he wins one without Goodes in the team?

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            • liz
              Veteran
              Site Admin
              • Jan 2003
              • 16733

              #81
              Originally posted by ugg
              When was the last time LRT was dropped for form or structural reasons? I'd back him to be one of the first picked in the team every week. He's not going anywhere.
              When was the last time we had to fit Tippett, Goodes and Reid into a side already containing Buddy? We are yet to still have this luxury but if and when all four are available, something has to give amongst the other talls. Ted and Pykey are close to assured their spots, but one or more of Derrickx, LRT, Grundy or Laidler is going to need to make way, you'd reckon.

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              • Matt80
                Suspended by the MRP
                • Sep 2013
                • 1802

                #82
                I think that Goodes will play at least two monitored games in the reserves. He needs to develop some match fitness and touch and that will be difficult in the Green Vest. Bring him in to the Green Vest role for Geelong and the Hawks.

                If Sam Reid is fit, then play him in the forward line with Tippett and Franklin. Those three guys will need to work over the next two games on their positioning and making sure they can separate their defenders leaving one on one contests for each.

                LRT will have to play if Tippett does not provide any ruck assistance. Due to LRT's defensive skills you can play him as a 4th attacking tall (in 2012 the forward line contained talls Pyke, Goodes, Reid and LRT) or you play him at a 3rd tall in the backline. This will lead to the omission of Laidler even though he has been good.

                Ins - Reid, Tippett
                Outs - Tom D and Laidler

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                • stellation
                  scott names the planets
                  • Sep 2003
                  • 9718

                  #83
                  Originally posted by aguy
                  Do you mean a couple of years ago ?
                  Yep, in his (and their) first game.
                  I knew him as a gentle young man, I cannot say for sure the reasons for his decline
                  We watched him fade before our very eyes, and years before his time

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                  • aguy
                    Senior Player
                    • Mar 2014
                    • 1324

                    #84
                    Originally posted by stellation
                    Yep, in his (and their) first game.
                    I remember the game. I was there but I can't remember the nuances of team selection then

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                    • ernie koala
                      Senior Player
                      • May 2007
                      • 3251

                      #85
                      Originally posted by Matt80
                      I think that Goodes will play at least two monitored games in the reserves. He needs to develop some match fitness and touch and that will be difficult in the Green Vest. Bring him in to the Green Vest role for Geelong and the Hawks.

                      If Sam Reid is fit, then play him in the forward line with Tippett and Franklin. Those three guys will need to work over the next two games on their positioning and making sure they can separate their defenders leaving one on one contests for each.


                      LRT will have to play if Tippett does not provide any ruck assistance. Due to LRT's defensive skills you can play him as a 4th attacking tall (in 2012 the forward line contained talls Pyke, Goodes, Reid and LRT) or you play him at a 3rd tall in the backline. This will lead to the omission of Laidler even though he has been good.

                      Ins - Reid, Tippett
                      Outs - Tom D and Laidler
                      I think you're right about Goodes, he's a notoriously slow starter after time off.

                      So I'll have to revise my ins and outs to match yours !

                      Goodes to play reserves.

                      IN : Tippett, Reid

                      OUT : Derrickx, Laidler
                      Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it's time to pause and reflect... MT

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                      • aguy
                        Senior Player
                        • Mar 2014
                        • 1324

                        #86
                        Originally posted by ernie koala
                        I think you're right about Goodes, he's a notoriously slow starter after time off.

                        So I'll have to revise my ins and outs to match yours !

                        Goodes to play reserves.

                        IN : Tippett, Reid

                        OUT : Derrickx, Laidler
                        Yes I'm feeling happier about this too

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                        • Jewels
                          On the Rookie List
                          • Oct 2006
                          • 3258

                          #87
                          Originally posted by bloodsbigot
                          Let's just go in with our strongest possible team and smack the opposition please.
                          Exactly! We not only have to win these seemingly easier games, we need to win BIG!!!!
                          Our percentage isn't great atm and will be very important later in the year, so none of this blooding players or rewarding players right now, we've had too bad a start to the season for that and need to play our strongest 22 and go for blood!

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                          • Dosser
                            Just wild about Harry
                            • Mar 2011
                            • 1833

                            #88
                            Originally posted by Jewels
                            Exactly! We not only have to win these seemingly easier games, we need to win BIG!!!!
                            Our percentage isn't great atm and will be very important later in the year, so none of this blooding players or rewarding players right now, we've had too bad a start to the season for that and need to play our strongest 22 and go for blood!
                            But Jewels, at the end of last year we were criticising the coaches for not rotating the midfielders for a rest during the season. I think every game will be a pressure/important game, but some will be easier to rest players than others.

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                            • AMcK3220
                              On the Rookie List
                              • Mar 2014
                              • 55

                              #89
                              Should be ok weather wise... No need for the "mud runners" ?

                              Saturday 26 April

                              Summary Min 11 Max 22 Partly cloudy.
                              Melbourne area

                              Partly cloudy. Light winds.
                              "Lance" is not a dirty word

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                              • Matt80
                                Suspended by the MRP
                                • Sep 2013
                                • 1802

                                #90
                                Originally posted by ernie koala
                                I think you're right about Goodes, he's a notoriously slow starter after time off.

                                So I'll have to revise my ins and outs to match yours !

                                Goodes to play reserves.

                                IN : Tippett, Reid

                                OUT : Derrickx, Laidler
                                I think we should start either Josh Kennedy or Kieran Jack in the subs vest against Melbourne to freshen them up. You then swap one of for them for the other just before 3 quarter time.

                                We do the same with Brisbane but swap the subs vest.

                                Give Lloyd, Bird and Parker greater midfield time and get Jack and Kennedy fresh for the bruising prospect of Geelong and the Hawks!

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