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  • Bloodthirsty
    On the Rookie List
    • May 2013
    • 607

    So how much cash does this free up?
    "Take me down to the Paradise City where the grass is green and the Swans win pretty."

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    • Ampersand
      On the Rookie List
      • Apr 2014
      • 694

      Very sad to see Malceski go. Very annoyed to see Biggs go.

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      • goswannies
        Senior Player
        • Sep 2007
        • 3048

        Originally posted by Ampersand
        Very sad to see Malceski go. Very annoyed to see Biggs go.
        Huh?! When was it reported that Biggs is going??

        "Malceski will also reportedly join the Suns' academy as a development coach. His manager, Ben Niall, told The Age that the opportunity to develop a coaching career with Gold Coast was another significant attraction."

        how could we have not offered him that? Can (sort of) understand not getting the 3rd year but not a coach at our Academy?
        Last edited by goswannies; 6 October 2014, 11:13 PM.

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        • Meg
          Go Swannies!
          Site Admin
          • Aug 2011
          • 4828

          List changes and trade bait (merged thread)

          Originally posted by Bloodthirsty
          So how much cash does this free up?
          Yes Mal's departure was presumably not allowed for when the projections were done in working out the sums to put together Buddy's contract. So it should free up money. But unfortunately for this purpose I assume Mal would have been on the Swans' veterans list. And so $115,000 odd of his salary would have been outside the cap and not available to pay to another player.

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          • goswannies
            Senior Player
            • Sep 2007
            • 3048

            Originally posted by Meg
            Yes Mal's departure was presumably not allowed for when the projections were done in working out the sums to put together Buddy's contract. So it should free up money. But unfortunately for this purpose I assume Mal would have been on the Swans' veterans list. And so $115,000 odd of his salary would have been outside the cap and not available to pay to another player.
            Sad that even as a veteran we couldn't accomodate him. Only 3 years at GC should hopefully see young Harrison Malceski on our father / son radar if the opportunity arises in 17 or so years. Yet another reason I'm glad Nick left on good terms.

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            • CureTheSane
              Carpe Noctem
              • Jan 2003
              • 5032

              Originally posted by goswannies
              "Malceski will also reportedly join the Suns' academy as a development coach. His manager, Ben Niall, told The Age that the opportunity to develop a coaching career with Gold Coast was another significant attraction."

              how could we have not offered him that? Can (sort of) understand not getting the 3rd year but not a coach at our Academy?
              Most times I've seen Malceski off field, he kinda seems pretty grumpy and not very personable.
              Not saying that this is a reflection on his character, but only my experiences.
              Perhaps the Swans don't see him as an ideal candidate for that type of role, or have others in mind etc...
              The difference between insanity and genius is measured only in success.

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              • liz
                Veteran
                Site Admin
                • Jan 2003
                • 16744

                Originally posted by Meg
                "His (Malceski's) manager Ben Niall said on Monday that the Swans had accepted his decision with class."

                ?It is been an emotional day for Nick, telling his coach was really difficult, but they have been really understanding and respectful and supportive."

                Nick Malceski joins Gold Coast Suns on three-year deal from Sydney Swans as unrestricted free agent

                As are we the Swans' supporters (understanding, respectful, supportive). Unlike the sheer vindictiveness shown to Lance Franklin by Hawthorn supporters.
                To be fair, only some Hawks fans are vindictive towards Buddy. And Hawthorn, the club, accepted his decision with dignity and class.

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                • Gezball
                  Warming the Bench
                  • Mar 2010
                  • 244

                  Originally posted by DLBIA14
                  Sad to see Mal go. Free agency has been good to us, but to see a player like Mal, with all his ups and downs, not end up a one club player... Rationally I can deal, but sentimentally I hoped he would have stayed with us.
                  Yep, sums up my sentiments too. Genuinely sad to see him go. Some footy players you become more attached to than others I guess.

                  Will give me a little reason to follow Gold Coast next year.

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                  • Bloodthirsty
                    On the Rookie List
                    • May 2013
                    • 607

                    So who would you say is Malceski's replacement? Jones? Rohan?
                    "Take me down to the Paradise City where the grass is green and the Swans win pretty."

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                    • cherub
                      Warming the Bench
                      • May 2010
                      • 239

                      Originally posted by goswannies
                      Huh?! When was it reported that Biggs is going??

                      "Malceski will also reportedly join the Suns' academy as a development coach. His manager, Ben Niall, told The Age that the opportunity to develop a coaching career with Gold Coast was another significant attraction."

                      how could we have not offered him that? Can (sort of) understand not getting the 3rd year but not a coach at our Academy?
                      It's actually good that our favourite sons go elsewhere to get coaching experience. It allows exposure to a wider range of ideas and models and approaches which, if they return to the Swans, will only benefit us. It doesn't do to get too inbred (cf Collingwood, Brisbane, Port Adelaide and of course, Essendon). I don't see Nick as a senior coach. But who knows. he is giving himself a chance to try to out with some financial security behind him.

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                      • bondy
                        Warming the Bench
                        • Jun 2008
                        • 160

                        Originally posted by Bloodthirsty
                        So who would you say is Malceski's replacement? Jones? Rohan?
                        I'd say it would be McVeigh in the backline with a midfield replacement (Mitchell, most likely).

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                        • 707
                          Veterans List
                          • Aug 2009
                          • 6204

                          At the tail end of his footy career, a weighty three year deal plus work at their Academy just can't be refused.

                          A great Swan, always be a favourite son, good luck Mal, have a family of boys!

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                          • Ampersand
                            On the Rookie List
                            • Apr 2014
                            • 694

                            Originally posted by goswannies
                            Huh?! When was it reported that Biggs is going??
                            It was reported on SEN. Requested a trade back to Victoria. It's unconfirmed as yet.

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                            • Jewels
                              On the Rookie List
                              • Oct 2006
                              • 3258

                              Originally posted by 707
                              At the tail end of his footy career, a weighty three year deal plus work at their Academy just can't be refused.

                              A great Swan, always be a favourite son, good luck Mal, have a family of boys!
                              Yep well said, my thoughts exactly.

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                              • giant
                                Veterans List
                                • Mar 2005
                                • 4731

                                Originally posted by 707
                                At the tail end of his footy career, a weighty three year deal plus work at their Academy just can't be refused.

                                A great Swan, always be a favourite son, good luck Mal, have a family of boys!
                                Absolutley, too good a deal to say no to.

                                Will miss him but....

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