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  • Boddo
    Senior Player
    • Mar 2017
    • 1049

    Originally posted by liz
    Who would McKenzie dislodge from our "best 22"? He was the guy that Gary Rohan kicked a bag on a few weeks back. Sure, it was his first senior game for a while, but when a player struggles to get a game at GC, there has to be some question around his ability.

    I reckon we've already got a couple of players in our reserves who can quite probably do a similar job to McKenzie, especially if the main qualification is to be able to boof the ball a long way but not do much else.
    +1 id rather see Dawson tried at hb

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    • Scottee
      Senior Player
      • Aug 2003
      • 1585

      Originally posted by ugg
      For a team that has gone 9-2 in the last 11 games and has the number 1 ranked defence in that time, I don't think the non-selection of Aliir has cost us in that regard.

      The Roughead contested marks against Hannebery and Jones were an issue with the midfield not the defence. As shown on On The Couch, Roughead started the centre bounces on the wing and moved forward. The Hawthorn forwards were also well coached to vacate the forward 50 area leaving a genuine one-on-one contests on both occasions with no third man up to help our undersized player. Unless Aliir was playing on the wing I don't think he would have made a difference in these 2 goals.
      I think we needed Aliir in that game for the very reason that he could have gone with Roughhead, but also because he could have offered the extra marking target in the forward line that we were missing wothout Rohan in the side. We got absolutely smashed in the air by their tall and mobile backline. What Foote offered compared to Aliir was totally beyond me.
      We have them where we want them, everything is going according to plan!

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      • Boddo
        Senior Player
        • Mar 2017
        • 1049

        Originally posted by Scottee
        I think we needed Aliir in that game for the very reason that he could have gone with Roughhead, but also because he could have offered the extra marking target in the forward line that we were missing wothout Rohan in the side. We got absolutely smashed in the air by their tall and mobile backline. What Foote offered compared to Aliir was totally beyond me.
        I would have preferred Aliir for Foote not for the reason you've stated because I don't believe Aliir can play forward ATM. He would have provided run from the back half which we lacked a lot and it would have released mills to a hff.

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        • waswan
          Senior Player
          • Oct 2015
          • 2047

          Originally posted by liz
          Who would McKenzie dislodge from our "best 22"? .
          If he came cheap enough he is worth a shot, long kick off the back flank

          Who knows what our 22 Looks like next year ???? Alir was supposed to be an All Australian this year remember and last year Melican never got a mention

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          • ugg
            Can you feel it?
            Site Admin
            • Jan 2003
            • 15962

            McKenzie can't get a game in one of a depleted Gold Coast side who are one of the worst defences in the AFL. I doubt he would get a game with our much stronger backline. I'd rather give a go to a O'Riordan or Murray.
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            • waswan
              Senior Player
              • Oct 2015
              • 2047

              Maybe their Match Committee has no idea too ? Would they play Foote ?

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              • YvonneH
                Senior Player
                • Sep 2011
                • 1141

                WHEN will Reid sign? (if at all) or is he gone?

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                • liz
                  Veteran
                  Site Admin
                  • Jan 2003
                  • 16738

                  I've split a number of posts off to a separate thread about the academy. You can find them here:

                  Swans academy - purpose and results

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                  • YvonneH
                    Senior Player
                    • Sep 2011
                    • 1141

                    Tony Shaw article says the Pies should go after Ben Brown instead of Sam Reid, who according to Tony is injury prone, inconsistent, and only plays well when his contract is up.

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                    • Mug Punter
                      On the Rookie List
                      • Nov 2009
                      • 3325

                      Originally posted by YvonneH
                      Tony Shaw article says the Pies should go after Ben Brown instead of Sam Reid, who according to Tony is injury prone, inconsistent, and only plays well when his contract is up.
                      There are certainly some aspects to Sammy that IMO reduce his value somewhat and we should be thankful for that as if he was a consistent four quarter performer at his best (which is very good) there is no way we would be able to keep him.

                      And on that note I'll be a little worried if we don't hear anything re him signing on this week

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                      • aardvark
                        Veterans List
                        • Mar 2010
                        • 5685

                        He'll resign. No one will pay overs for him.

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                        • S.S. Bleeder
                          Senior Player
                          • Sep 2014
                          • 2165

                          Luke Ryan got BOG for Freo yesterday and will probably get this weeks Rising Star. We were right into him last draft but were beaten to the punch by Freo.

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                          • liz
                            Veteran
                            Site Admin
                            • Jan 2003
                            • 16738

                            Originally posted by S.S. Bleeder
                            Luke Ryan got BOG for Freo yesterday and will probably get this weeks Rising Star. We were right into him last draft but were beaten to the punch by Freo.
                            He was taken at pick 66, after Sydney had exhausted its quota of four picks in the ND. So I don't think we could have been that into him.

                            I read somewhere that it was believed that the Swans were into him because one of the scouts went to watch a lot of Coburg games, but that it was actually Robbie Fox that they were checking out.

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                            • Ludwig
                              Veterans List
                              • Apr 2007
                              • 9359

                              Originally posted by liz
                              He was taken at pick 66, after Sydney had exhausted its quota of four picks in the ND. So I don't think we could have been that into him.

                              I read somewhere that it was believed that the Swans were into him because one of the scouts went to watch a lot of Coburg games, but that it was actually Robbie Fox that they were checking out.
                              This makes a lot of sense. I commented at the time that I thought it would be a bad move to take Ryan, even if we rated him, because we have so much depth at HBF.

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                              • Maltopia
                                Senior Player
                                • Apr 2016
                                • 1556

                                There is going to be some more changing of the guard next couple of years. Quite a few players aged 30+: Kennedy, McVeigh, Jack, Reg, Tippett, and of course Franklin. Smith is 29, and Laidler and Sinclair are 28.

                                I am assuming Leonardis, Tahlia and BJ are also looking vulnerable for delisting/trade at the end of the season?

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