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  • barry
    Veterans List
    • Jan 2003
    • 8499

    A Tippet / B Reid straight swap wouldnt be out of the question. Collingwood are desperate for a full forward, and B. Reid is out of favour at pie land. Both are about the same age.

    Depends who coaches pies next year, but you'd think they would be gun shy about dealing with us after Jesse White.

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    • Mark26
      Senior Player
      • Jan 2017
      • 1535

      Originally posted by Nico
      So what happens if Reid and Jones exit stage right.
      I'm still hoping we will sign one or both of these lads.

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      • mattybloods
        Warming the Bench
        • Jul 2016
        • 482

        Originally posted by barry
        A Tippet / B Reid straight swap wouldnt be out of the question. Collingwood are desperate for a full forward, and B. Reid is out of favour at pie land. Both are about the same age.
        Wouldn't that be nice!

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        • Club 80
          Suspended by the MRP
          • Apr 2017
          • 149

          Originally posted by barry
          A Tippet / B Reid straight swap wouldnt be out of the question. Collingwood are desperate for a full forward, and B. Reid is out of favour at pie land. Both are about the same age.

          Depends who coaches pies next year, but you'd think they would be gun shy about dealing with us after Jesse White.
          Would not happen as Mason Cox is offering more at Full Forward than Tippett. At 210cm and with good hands and reliable kick he could develop into an interesting player.

          The Ben Reid dropping could work well for the Swans. It shatters the brothers back together fantasy.

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          • The Big Cat
            On the veteran's list
            • Apr 2006
            • 2350

            Originally posted by Club 80
            Would not happen as Mason Cox is offering more at Full Forward than Tippett. At 210cm and with good hands and reliable kick he could develop into an interesting player
            Nathan Cox is as useless as a plough in the bedroom.
            Those who have the greatest power to hurt us are those we love.

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            • Mug Punter
              On the Rookie List
              • Nov 2009
              • 3325

              Originally posted by Nico
              So what happens if Reid and Jones exit stage right.
              It would be a blow for sure but I expect us to sign at least one and I think the chances are higher of us signing both than neither.

              The only reason I have for saying this is that I think that the "extra" $1M in cap space plus what we are doing with Tippett may allow enough wriggle room in the cap.

              If we lose them both? My personal preference would be to go to the draft with three first rounders this year, re-sign some more players with sign-on bonuses this year to soak up cap space and free up space in the future and look to next year for a KPF once the player market settles down into a more normal pattern.

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              • moocher
                Pushing for Selection
                • Jul 2014
                • 50

                One of the really interesting aspects of following the Swans is watching our recruitment. I have no doubt that there are contingencies in place for the loss of both or either Jones & Reid. While I'd hate to see either of them go I have absolute faith that we'll cover their losses quickly and well. I feel that Reid will be harder to replace although I think he gives less to the side than Jones.

                If the rumours are true that we are trying to offload KT in a trade then I feel it likely that Reid is staying. One can only hope as i think both these players have their best years ahead. Jones's improvement over the past year has been significant and I think he will only get better.

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                • Kirk31
                  On the Rookie List
                  • Mar 2016
                  • 22

                  To be honest, I am surprised we have not heard about a possible signing for at least one of these boys. I don't want both to leave however I would be extremely disappointed in losing Zak Jones especially as he is just starting to show consistently why we drafted him. Sam Reid I don't want to lose either however this will be through free-agency where Zak will need to be traded. I spoke to a high-profile former AFL player yesterday who is also in the media and he thinks it does not look for both of them staying at the Swans. Also may I ask what did Zak Jones exactly say on Foxtel the other night.
                  I am a proud South Australian Sydney Swans Member - Go BLOODS

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                  • Doctor
                    Bay 29
                    • Sep 2003
                    • 2757

                    Ben Reid is always injured. If we took him we'd want him for unders.
                    Today's a draft of your epitaph

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                    • Club 80
                      Suspended by the MRP
                      • Apr 2017
                      • 149

                      Originally posted by Kirk31
                      To be honest, I am surprised we have not heard about a possible signing for at least one of these boys. I don't want both to leave however I would be extremely disappointed in losing Zak Jones especially as he is just starting to show consistently why we drafted him. Sam Reid I don't want to lose either however this will be through free-agency where Zak will need to be traded. I spoke to a high-profile former AFL player yesterday who is also in the media and he thinks it does not look for both of them staying at the Swans. Also may I ask what did Zak Jones exactly say on Foxtel the other night.
                      I don't know what's happened to the mystique of the Swans. In late 2013 we secured Buddy Franklin and during the 2014 season the whole of the AFL including the AFL administration were fearful that the Swans would keep poaching the best AFL players. It seemed that every available superstar was coming to the Swans and joining the Bondi Billionaires club. Be it Ryder, Dangerfield. I thought we could have them all.

                      Now we are struggling to hold onto two players that we really want to keep.

                      What's happened to the era where we could get whatever player we wanted and hold onto the players we wanted?

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                      • KTigers
                        Senior Player
                        • Apr 2012
                        • 2499

                        For sure, Ben Reid makes Tippo look healthy.

                        Originally posted by Doctor
                        Ben Reid is always injured. If we took him we'd want him for unders.

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                        • KTigers
                          Senior Player
                          • Apr 2012
                          • 2499

                          I'm going with the X Richards explanation. Even though Reid & Jones' current salaries appear quite decent, it only gets
                          them a room in a share house with a bunch of Irish backpackers out Clovelly way these days...

                          Originally posted by Club 80
                          I don't know what's happened to the mystique of the Swans. In late 2013 we secured Buddy Franklin and during the 2014 season the whole of the AFL including the AFL administration were fearful that the Swans would keep poaching the best AFL players. It seemed that every available superstar was coming to the Swans and joining the Bondi Billionaires club. Be it Ryder, Dangerfield. I thought we could have them all.

                          Now we are struggling to hold onto two players that we really want to keep.

                          What's happened to the era where we could get whatever player we wanted and hold onto the players we wanted?
                          Last edited by KTigers; 5 July 2017, 02:40 PM.

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                          • Boddo
                            Senior Player
                            • Mar 2017
                            • 1049

                            Just wondering if we lose either of Reid or Jones does anyone think we will bundle our 1st round picks together to trade to move up the draft order to try n get hold of Brander? Looked disappointing at chb against Lukosius but looked good against WA and played an absolute Ripa yesterday. Named at CHF in the U18 all Australian. Looks a perfect fit for us going forward.

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                            • Mug Punter
                              On the Rookie List
                              • Nov 2009
                              • 3325

                              Originally posted by Boddo
                              Just wondering if we lose either of Reid or Jones does anyone think we will bundle our 1st round picks together to trade to move up the draft order to try n get hold of Brander? Looked disappointing at chb against Lukosius but looked good against WA and played an absolute Ripa yesterday. Named at CHF in the U18 all Australian. Looks a perfect fit for us going forward.
                              Only if we lost Reid for mine. History tends to teach us that the good KPFs will usually require a top ten pick so it would be a gamble worth taking, at the moment topping up the elite talent seems a good idea and with hopefully Blakey to come next year we'd have good stocks on the place.

                              If Reid stays then I would prefer to go for two latter first round draftees as mids.

                              If Reid goes then Tippett stays, our only option will be to try and get a serviceable season or two out of him as a stay at home full forward. I'd start to trying to get some of that beef off him that makes him so statue like on the field, have a look at the way he moved at Adelaide and how he moves now and it is chalk and cheese

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                              • goswannies
                                Senior Player
                                • Sep 2007
                                • 3048

                                Originally posted by Mug Punter
                                If Reid goes then Tippett stays, our only option will be to try and get a serviceable season or two out of him as a stay at home full forward. I'd start to trying to get some of that beef off him that makes him so statue like on the field, have a look at the way he moved at Adelaide and how he moves now and it is chalk and cheese
                                I moved better 5 years ago than I do now too

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