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  • dejavoodoo44
    Veterans List
    • Apr 2015
    • 8598

    Originally posted by crackedactor
    Come on guys, let's start razor Ray campaign as GF umpire. He may make strange decisions, but he comes across as impartial. I respect him for that. No doubt Gil M will ensure Stevic and Meredith will umpire the big match, especially if it's Richmond v Sydney.


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    I suppose we could call the campaign, Everybody Loves Raymond. Or maybe, The Little Ray of Sunshine?

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    • Mug Punter
      On the Rookie List
      • Nov 2009
      • 3325

      Originally posted by Mug Punter
      Oh dear, we are 3-7 and the world is going to end. Nurse grab the diapers now!!

      3-7 is not ideal but the first five rounds we were cruelled by an injury count as high as I can remember. At AFL level games are won or lost on such fine margins, you won't here the coaches blaming injuries but can you possibly think we'd have lost to the Pies with Heeney, Rampe, Papley , Rohan and Tippett instead of Foote, Fox, Marsh, Sinclair and Dawson?

      Carlton was totally unacceptable but apart from that they've tried hard. And the loss against the Hawks whilst disappointing was hardly shambolic as you say - they had their chances and lost them but that is football. Watching Hawthorn at the moment is like watching an ageing champion in any sport, the legs are not willing but they are still smart and tough and find a way to win because they are one of the champion teams if all time and they'll win a few more games this year too. So to view a loss to them as a disgrace is a bit harsh.

      I'll be reserving my judgement until the end of the season on both the team and our coaching team and try and enjoy the rest of the season as much as I can, I reckon you'd enjoy it more if you could do the same......

      Many won't share this view but I'm going to view the ladder for the last 16 games at the end of the year as an alternate indicator of our season, if we can go 10-6 over that period I'll be mildly satisfied with the season after our start
      How long ago Round 6 seems, and to think I would have been happy with only 10-6 over the last 16 rounds

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      • Hotpotato
        Senior Player
        • Jun 2014
        • 2269

        John uses pretty much the same (working) formula at his pre game pressers every week, pumping up the tyres of the upcoming opponent.
        "They are playing a really good brand of footy, their midfield is very strong, we will have to be at our best to beat them blah blah blah... "

        Is it completely different behind closed doors?
        Does he put his hand over his mouth and say:

        "This team at a bunch of old coudabeens, it's in the bag guys... "

        I guess it's much the same however.

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        • dejavoodoo44
          Veterans List
          • Apr 2015
          • 8598

          Originally posted by Hotpotato
          John uses pretty much the same (working) formula at his pre game pressers every week, pumping up the tyres of the upcoming opponent.
          "They are playing a really good brand of footy, their midfield is very strong, we will have to be at our best to beat them blah blah blah... "

          Is it completely different behind closed doors?
          Does he put his hand over his mouth and say:

          "This team at a bunch of old coudabeens, it's in the bag guys... "

          I guess it's much the same however.
          Or, if a losing coach ever says something along the lines of, "Yeah, sorry about the flogging you got on the weekend, boys. Wasn't your fault. It's just that the game plan was crap. Don't know what I was thinking? But hey, now that I think of it, it's sort of funny how badly I stuffed up. I mean, putting Stumpy in the ruck!?".....
          Last edited by dejavoodoo44; 13 September 2017, 07:24 PM.

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          • Billericay
            Regular in the Side
            • May 2013
            • 712

            Originally posted by Hotpotato
            John uses pretty much the same (working) formula at his pre game pressers every week, pumping up the tyres of the upcoming opponent.
            "They are playing a really good brand of footy, their midfield is very strong, we will have to be at our best to beat them blah blah blah... "

            Is it completely different behind closed doors?
            Does he put his hand over his mouth and say:

            "This team at a bunch of old coudabeens, it's in the bag guys... "

            I guess it's much the same however.
            I presume that Longmire says it for the players motivation / focus and what he tells the media is basically the same. He always paints the opposition as being dangerous if we give them the opportunity...

            I'm sure a four quarter performance will deliver a win, if everyone plays their role.

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            • MattW
              Veterans List
              • May 2011
              • 4212

              Originally posted by Billericay
              I presume that Longmire says it for the players motivation / focus and what he tells the media is basically the same. He always paints the opposition as being dangerous if we give them the opportunity...

              I'm sure a four quarter performance will deliver a win, if everyone plays their role.
              McVeigh's presser today was a masterclass in talking up Geelong. Convinced me.

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              • Billericay
                Regular in the Side
                • May 2013
                • 712

                Well they did finish second for a reason

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                • Swansongster
                  Senior Player
                  • Sep 2008
                  • 1264

                  All coaches need to be proficient in the art of spin, deflection, superfluous language and controlled message. Horse is one of the best at this "game".

                  It's PR 101 to say nothing that will become a headline, motivate the opposition or reveal any secrets.

                  Watch Working Dog's great comedy show "Hollowmen". It's a documentary.

                  It makes it all dull as dishwater for the fans and is why journos just make stuff up

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                  • RogueSwan
                    McVeigh for Brownlow
                    • Apr 2003
                    • 4602

                    Originally posted by Billericay
                    ... He always paints the opposition as being dangerous if we give them the opportunity...
                    Which has been the case for a lot of games (not just ours) this season.

                    Originally posted by Billericay
                    Well they did finish second for a reason
                    Kardinia Park?
                    "Fortunately, this is the internet, so knowing nothing is no obstacle to having an opinion!." Beerman 18-07-2017

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                    • Levii3
                      Regular in the Side
                      • Jun 2015
                      • 655

                      Originally posted by Hotpotato
                      John uses pretty much the same (working) formula at his pre game pressers every week, pumping up the tyres of the upcoming opponent.
                      "They are playing a really good brand of footy, their midfield is very strong, we will have to be at our best to beat them blah blah blah... "

                      Is it completely different behind closed doors?
                      Does he put his hand over his mouth and say:

                      "This team at a bunch of old coudabeens, it's in the bag guys... "

                      I guess it's much the same however.
                      Its look like he said its behind closed doors as well because all the boys that did interviews (McVeigh, Hannebery, Newman, Kennedy & Harry) said the same thing about Geelong having 140 tackles during the season against the Dogs.

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                      • Beerman
                        Regular in the Side
                        • Oct 2010
                        • 823

                        Originally posted by Levii3
                        Its look like he said its behind closed doors as well because all the boys that did interviews (McVeigh, Hannebery, Newman, Kennedy & Harry) said the same thing about Geelong having 140 tackles during the season against the Dogs.
                        They are all very well drilled by the same PR person and value doing the right thing by the team and staying on message over expressing their own opinions.

                        Clearly it's different behind closed doors. Clubs target players. I remember when Swans beat the Saints at the SCG (back in '09 it must have been) the did it partly by shutting everyone else down and letting Maguire bring the ball out of defence. The message was clearly "he's not a good ball user so let him get it and shut down options").

                        I know that was before longmire's time, but analysis of opposition weaknesses happens every game.

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                        • aardvark
                          Veterans List
                          • Mar 2010
                          • 5685

                          5 years and counting. Arguably the best list for many of them and nothing but mediocrity when it counts. Time to fall on the sword John. Nice bloke, crap coach.

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                          • Bloody Hell
                            Senior Player
                            • Oct 2006
                            • 3085

                            I like Horse as coach, except.... the thing I don't like is there is no plan B. When oppositions move from the ordinary there is no reaction and we are left looking simple. Clarkson has done it every time we play the Hawks significantly in the 2014 GF.

                            6 goals down at halftime and you play a man behind the ball for the rest of the match...really?
                            The eternal connundrum "what happens when an unstoppable force meets an immovable object" was finally solved when David Hasselhoff punched himself in the face.

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                            • barry
                              Veterans List
                              • Jan 2003
                              • 8499

                              Shows that we really blew a golden opportunity last year.

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                              • Mug Punter
                                On the Rookie List
                                • Nov 2009
                                • 3325

                                Originally posted by aardvark
                                5 years and counting. Arguably the best list for many of them and nothing but mediocrity when it counts. Time to fall on the sword John. Nice bloke, crap coach.
                                This bloke you say is a crap coach has the second best winning % of any coach since 1965 who has coached over 100 games. The best record, the bloke who beat us last night.

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                                Last edited by liz; 16 September 2017, 03:17 PM. Reason: Please don't play the man

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