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  • Markwebbos
    Veterans List
    • Jul 2016
    • 7186

    Looks like Moore was using the Swans to up his offer from the Swans. He's off my Christmas card list.

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    • crackedactor
      Regular in the Side
      • May 2012
      • 919

      Originally posted by Markwebbos
      Looks like Moore was using the Swans to up his offer from the Swans. He's off my Christmas card list.
      Generally speaking I find the sporting news to be a reliable source. They mentioned that Paddy McCartin is keen to join the Swans even though St Kilda won't release him and the resigning of Moore to Collingwood is not 100 percent certain. Also mentioned Tom Jonas, but I have hardly heard about him in trade talks.


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      • Markwebbos
        Veterans List
        • Jul 2016
        • 7186

        Originally posted by Melbourne_Blood
        Apparently the Lachie Neale to Brisbane deal is worth 4 million over 5 years. 800k a year ?? Anyone else think that’s massive unders considering what Gaff and Shiel are being offered ? I’d have Neale over those two any day. Can we offer him 900 - 1 mill over 7 years and steal him ? Would be worth asking the question I would’ve thought .
        I agree that’s an extremely reasonable price for Neale. Great work by the Lions.

        FYI I’d be prepared to play for the Swans for only $790k a year.

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        • Steve
          Regular in the Side
          • Jan 2003
          • 676

          2018 trading, drafting and list management: players and personnel

          Originally posted by Markwebbos
          Looks like Moore was using the Swans to up his offer from the Swans. He's off my Christmas card list.
          Or we might have been happy to be the Plan B for Moore, knowing if he ended up staying it could squeeze Langdon out.

          Langdon’s manager made a point of saying they had been talking with other clubs for some time, on the basis Collingwood were prioritising other deals.

          And Harley gets himself quoted yesterday saying we were making up our minds about whether to make an offer to Moore, perhaps as a final nudge to ensure Collingwood upped its offer which makes Langdon less likely to stay.

          When you look at all the good teams, they have always had non-stars who had been recruited from elsewhere to play roles and fill specific gaps.

          For various reasons we haven’t done that for a few years, but it looks like we are making up for lost time now.
          Last edited by Steve; 3 October 2018, 10:44 PM.

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          • liz
            Veteran
            Site Admin
            • Jan 2003
            • 16737

            Langdon to the Swans seems unlikely, but he'd be a great get. He's not really a key position player but he plays reasonably tall for his height. He'd easily slot into the Mills role and release him further up the ground.

            Freo are apparently into him and with his brother already over there, you can see why that might hold some attraction for him. Though if Hogan decides he wants to go west, that might tie up Freo's attention and trade currency. Even if they relinquish Neale, they'll probably have to find a little bit more trade currency given over-hyped key forwards cost a bit more than smallish midfielders, ignoring what the two have proven to date.

            $800k for Neale sounds like good value for the Lions, though I reckon that's probably about the right rate for second tier mids (and by second tier, I mean those below the Dangerfield, Martin level). The $1.2m offer supposedly made for Gaff sounds like a club with too much spare salary cap space, as does the reported similar offer for Shiel (by the Saints). $800k is what we have been told Hanners is on (which was fair value when he was playing like an All Australian) and I presume Kennedy and Parker would be on similar contracts.

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            • S.S. Bleeder
              Senior Player
              • Sep 2014
              • 2165

              I really think that we should be looking at Greenwood and Casboult. That way we'd have a pair of Levi's.

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              • Sandridge
                Outer wing, Lake Oval
                • Apr 2010
                • 2049

                Originally posted by S.S. Bleeder
                I really think that we should be looking at Greenwood and Casboult. That way we'd have a pair of Levi's.

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                • Auntie.Gerald
                  Veterans List
                  • Oct 2009
                  • 6474

                  I don’t think the Moore trade is over yet
                  Steven May could be the the missing piece for the pies to win a premiership

                  The pies need May
                  "be tough, only when it gets tough"

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                  • Melbourne_Blood
                    Senior Player
                    • May 2010
                    • 3312

                    Originally posted by liz
                    Langdon to the Swans seems unlikely, but he'd be a great get. He's not really a key position player but he plays reasonably tall for his height. He'd easily slot into the Mills role and release him further up the ground.

                    Freo are apparently into him and with his brother already over there, you can see why that might hold some attraction for him. Though if Hogan decides he wants to go west, that might tie up Freo's attention and trade currency. Even if they relinquish Neale, they'll probably have to find a little bit more trade currency given over-hyped key forwards cost a bit more than smallish midfielders, ignoring what the two have proven to date.

                    $800k for Neale sounds like good value for the Lions, though I reckon that's probably about the right rate for second tier mids (and by second tier, I mean those below the Dangerfield, Martin level). The $1.2m offer supposedly made for Gaff sounds like a club with too much spare salary cap space, as does the reported similar offer for Shiel (by the Saints). $800k is what we have been told Hanners is on (which was fair value when he was playing like an All Australian) and I presume Kennedy and Parker would be on similar contracts.
                    I understand it ‘was’ the going rate , but times are rapidly changing and to prise someone away from their club (who is under contract) , as good a player as Neale, it seems like a bargain. Surely he could be getting closer to 1 million. I’m sure there would be several clubs prepared to pay that. There must be some other attraction to Brisbane , I suppose their future is looking a lot brighter than freo’s is.


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                    • Markwebbos
                      Veterans List
                      • Jul 2016
                      • 7186

                      Originally posted by Auntie.Gerald
                      I don’t think the Moore trade is over yet
                      Steven May could be the the missing piece for the pies to win a premiership

                      The pies need May
                      Story is that Pies may be able to afford Moore and May if they force out Goldsack.

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                      • S.S. Bleeder
                        Senior Player
                        • Sep 2014
                        • 2165

                        Originally posted by Markwebbos
                        Looks like Moore was using the Swans to up his offer from the Swans. He's off my Christmas card list.
                        But Collingwood had to pay more. That's a good thing.

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                        • ernie koala
                          Senior Player
                          • May 2007
                          • 3251

                          Casboult is an interesting one. He's a really handy tall forward....great mark, who struggles in front of goal.

                          If Plugger or whoever is our goal kicking coach could fix his technique, particularly his ball drop, he'd be a great get at a very reasonable price you would think.

                          Big if I know.

                          Duryea may well become a Swan today.
                          Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it's time to pause and reflect... MT

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                          • RogueSwan
                            McVeigh for Brownlow
                            • Apr 2003
                            • 4602

                            Originally posted by Markwebbos
                            Story is that Pies may be able to afford Moore and May if they force out Goldsack.
                            Not ol' Moneyballs
                            "Fortunately, this is the internet, so knowing nothing is no obstacle to having an opinion!." Beerman 18-07-2017

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                            • AnnieH
                              RWOs Black Sheep
                              • Aug 2006
                              • 11332

                              Originally posted by Markwebbos
                              See Mummy is talking about making a comeback. Why not Tippo too?
                              I rumoured Tipoff wanted to come back in weeks and weeks ago.
                              Wild speculation, unsubstantiated rumours, silly jokes and opposition delight in another's failures is what makes an internet forum fun.
                              Blessed are the cracked for they are the ones who let in the light.

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                              • 707
                                Veterans List
                                • Aug 2009
                                • 6204

                                Worrying that a possible raft of FA moves are starting to dilute the points for our picks.

                                Lynch pushes back all our picks one place, Gaff & Lycett who appear almost certain to go push them back another two places and maybe more to come :-(

                                Also means we'll get less points for trading out pick 13 for two second rounders if that's what we do.

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