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  • CureTheSane
    Carpe Noctem
    • Jan 2003
    • 5032

    Originally posted by Markwebbos
    If GC would offer us draft picks in return for Hanners, and take his entire salary off our hands, surely we would consider it?

    If there is no lingering injury and it's completely form, and the deal was good, I'd say yes.
    But I dare say there is more going on than we are aware of. Mitigating circumstances etc. Who knows.
    The difference between insanity and genius is measured only in success.

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    • wolftone57
      Veterans List
      • Aug 2008
      • 5835

      Originally posted by Markwebbos
      It was pointed out today on afl.com.au that the Swans now have former Bulldogs recruiting chief Simon Dalrymple at the club. He spent 11 seasons at the Bulldogs from 2007-2017.

      I wondered if there were any Dogs we might go after via trade or free agency e.g. Libba, Wallis, Dahlhaus, Roughead etc?

      Biggs, Dunkley HAHAHA

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      • S.S. Bleeder
        Senior Player
        • Sep 2014
        • 2165

        Originally posted by Markwebbos
        Yes, you are right. We did get nothing for him, partly because the Saints had pick one in the PSD.

        - - - Updated - - -



        Damian Barrett stirring the pot about Hanners future with the Swans: Sliding Doors: round 17 - AFL.com.au

        If: Rival clubs know one thing about Hannebery ...

        Then: It is that he is contracted to the end of 2021. But some have already asked the question, and others will do so in the off-season. There's something strange going on here.
        Talk about lazy journalism. I'll tell you what's going on. He's playing with OP. He didn't want to have an operation because it would hinder our premiership chances. Barrett's inference is that he is unhappy and that's affecting his performance.

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        • wolftone57
          Veterans List
          • Aug 2008
          • 5835

          We need to worry less about who comes in and more about who stays. Llloydy is a must. He was runner up in the Bob Skilton Medal last year, most people I kniow agree that he should have won it. He is averaging 33 disposals at 82%. I think the youth policy has started to work really well for us. so trading players out for a star or a player like Darcy Moore is a waste of time in my humble opinion. Moore has not shown a great deal, far less than Tommy McCartin as far as I'm concerned.

          I think the last few years have been very productive in drafting. Florent, Hayward, Ronke, Stoddart, Papley and you can also add Mills and Heeney have changed our side drastically. Add McCartin and Amarty (who I believe will be a great player), Aliir, Dawson (when he gets his body right he will be important), Lloydy, Maibaum (Reg's replacement) and boy have we done well from the draft. I personally don't think we need to trade at this time. I don't think we need any more expensive list cloggers like we have had in the past. I mean we traded several players who spent more time in the hospital wing than in the gym. Reid is already in that position and Darcy Moore is another injury prone player with similar problems to Reid.

          So why have we not fixed up Lloydy's contract? Because our footy department is looking at a high cost recruit. That can be the only reason. Horse, Harley and the new bloke would be fools not to re-sign Lloydy. They would be telling every team player on our list that no matter how good they are they are not appreciated.

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          • Blood Fever
            Veterans List
            • Apr 2007
            • 4040

            Originally posted by wolftone57
            We need to worry less about who comes in and more about who stays. Llloydy is a must. He was runner up in the Bob Skilton Medal last year, most people I kniow agree that he should have won it. He is averaging 33 disposals at 82%. I think the youth policy has started to work really well for us. so trading players out for a star or a player like Darcy Moore is a waste of time in my humble opinion. Moore has not shown a great deal, far less than Tommy McCartin as far as I'm concerned.

            I think the last few years have been very productive in drafting. Florent, Hayward, Ronke, Stoddart, Papley and you can also add Mills and Heeney have changed our side drastically. Add McCartin and Amarty (who I believe will be a great player), Aliir, Dawson (when he gets his body right he will be important), Lloydy, Maibaum (Reg's replacement) and boy have we done well from the draft. I personally don't think we need to trade at this time. I don't think we need any more expensive list cloggers like we have had in the past. I mean we traded several players who spent more time in the hospital wing than in the gym. Reid is already in that position and Darcy Moore is another injury prone player with similar problems to Reid.

            So why have we not fixed up Lloydy's contract? Because our footy department is looking at a high cost recruit. That can be the only reason. Horse, Harley and the new bloke would be fools not to re-sign Lloydy. They would be telling every team player on our list that no matter how good they are they are not appreciated.
            All conjecture at the moment Wolf. We don't really know who is on what money. Lloyd might have a godfather offer and we just can't match it. These days happens at lots of clubs, not just Swans.

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            • Melbourne_Blood
              Senior Player
              • May 2010
              • 3312

              Originally posted by wolftone57
              We need to worry less about who comes in and more about who stays. Llloydy is a must. He was runner up in the Bob Skilton Medal last year, most people I kniow agree that he should have won it. He is averaging 33 disposals at 82%. I think the youth policy has started to work really well for us. so trading players out for a star or a player like Darcy Moore is a waste of time in my humble opinion. Moore has not shown a great deal, far less than Tommy McCartin as far as I'm concerned.

              I think the last few years have been very productive in drafting. Florent, Hayward, Ronke, Stoddart, Papley and you can also add Mills and Heeney have changed our side drastically. Add McCartin and Amarty (who I believe will be a great player), Aliir, Dawson (when he gets his body right he will be important), Lloydy, Maibaum (Reg's replacement) and boy have we done well from the draft. I personally don't think we need to trade at this time. I don't think we need any more expensive list cloggers like we have had in the past. I mean we traded several players who spent more time in the hospital wing than in the gym. Reid is already in that position and Darcy Moore is another injury prone player with similar problems to Reid.

              So why have we not fixed up Lloydy's contract? Because our footy department is looking at a high cost recruit. That can be the only reason. Horse, Harley and the new bloke would be fools not to re-sign Lloydy. They would be telling every team player on our list that no matter how good they are they are not appreciated.
              Certainly no expensive list cloggers , but to say we don’t need to to trade to improve our position , I can’t understand that. We’re not close to a flag with what we’re serving up this year. We need to do what we’ve done previously to great effect and identify holes in our list that can be filled by undervalued players from opposition lists . Our midfield needs a boost , if we can find a Joey type and a Hannebery type ( the gun version not the current version ) for unders then we should trade accordingly.


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              • stevoswan
                Veterans List
                • Sep 2014
                • 8543

                Originally posted by Markwebbos
                Damian Barrett stirring the pot about Hanners future with the Swans: Sliding Doors: round 17 - AFL.com.au

                If: Rival clubs know one thing about Hannebery ...

                Then: It is that he is contracted to the end of 2021. But some have already asked the question, and others will do so in the off-season. There's something strange going on here.
                Yeah, I saw that...Barrett's a turd and wtf is that last sentence all about? Nothing 'strange' going on....we tied up a gun player and he's been playing injured ever since. No one's got a crystal ball.....

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                • Blood Fever
                  Veterans List
                  • Apr 2007
                  • 4040

                  Originally posted by stevoswan
                  Yeah, I saw that...Barrett's a turd and wtf is that last sentence all about? Nothing 'strange' going on....we tied up a gun player and he's been playing injured ever since. No one's got a crystal ball.....
                  Sadly, there are many who hang on people like Barret's very word and think they are in the know. Just makes stuff up and creates a fantasy world that people believe is true.

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                  • liz
                    Veteran
                    Site Admin
                    • Jan 2003
                    • 16739

                    Even by Barrett’s low standards, this one really is scraping the bottom of the barrel to come up with something “controversial”.

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                    • 707
                      Veterans List
                      • Aug 2009
                      • 6204

                      Originally posted by liz
                      Even by Barrett’s low standards, this one really is scraping the bottom of the barrel to come up with something “controversial”.
                      Barrett is the lowest of the low, his weekly column is mostly crap, and crap is rating it higher than it should be rated!

                      Speak no more of this nonsense and innuendo, please.

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                      • CureTheSane
                        Carpe Noctem
                        • Jan 2003
                        • 5032

                        Genuine question.
                        Why is Damien Barrett so ridiculed for what he says?
                        Is it because the majority of it turns out to be incorrect?
                        Is he a rumormonger rather than a presenter of facts?

                        I really don't follow closely enough to have much insight.
                        Don't watch the footy show or any other shows he is on.
                        Don't listen to the radio, and rarely read sliding doors.
                        The difference between insanity and genius is measured only in success.

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                        • liz
                          Veteran
                          Site Admin
                          • Jan 2003
                          • 16739

                          Originally posted by CureTheSane
                          Genuine question.
                          Why is Damien Barrett so ridiculed for what he says?
                          Is it because the majority of it turns out to be incorrect?
                          Is he a rumormonger rather than a presenter of facts?

                          I really don't follow closely enough to have much insight.
                          Don't watch the footy show or any other shows he is on.
                          Don't listen to the radio, and rarely read sliding doors.
                          Most of Sliding Doors is just banal crap. Sometimes he throws a comment in that he maybe thinks is provocative, like this one, but I can’t recall him ever saying anything genuinely interesting.

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                          • Plugger46
                            Senior Player
                            • Apr 2003
                            • 3674

                            He’s the pits. Never gets anything right. Just blatantly makes things up while trying to stir up trouble.

                            I remember after we lost the first game Tippett played for the club (against Port) he said that Kurt had destroyed the culture of the club.

                            Complete and utter peanut.
                            Bloods

                            "Lockett is the best of all time" - Robert Harvey, Darrel Baldock, Nathan Burke, Kevin Bartlett, Bob Skilton

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                            • CureTheSane
                              Carpe Noctem
                              • Jan 2003
                              • 5032

                              I've always thought he's pretty close with Eddie McGuire. Is this how otehrs see him?
                              Would make sense.
                              The difference between insanity and genius is measured only in success.

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                              • Blood Fever
                                Veterans List
                                • Apr 2007
                                • 4040

                                Originally posted by CureTheSane
                                Genuine question.
                                Why is Damien Barrett so ridiculed for what he says?
                                Is it because the majority of it turns out to be incorrect?
                                Is he a rumormonger rather than a presenter of facts?

                                I really don't follow closely enough to have much insight.
                                Don't watch the footy show or any other shows he is on.
                                Don't listen to the radio, and rarely read sliding doors.
                                Keep up not watching, reading and listening CTS - you are better off, you are not missing anything and you are in a better head space.

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