2018 trading, drafting and list management: players and personnel

[Auntie.Gerald]

Was anyone a little PTSD after trade week

I got a little too involved methinks

Lots of thought......lots of contemplation

Sadly lots of hope

[stevoswan]

When will this @@@@ give up?

Barrett from his 'sliding doors' drivel......on our trading.

"If.......you ask again which team finished bottom of the ladder in Trade Period ...

Then......this one did."

Yeah Barrett.....we get it.....you don't like us.....and, we're not asking. @@@@ off!

[707]

Barrett = tosser

[R-1]

When will this @@@@ give up?

Barrett from his 'sliding doors' drivel......on our trading.

"If.......you ask again which team finished bottom of the ladder in Trade Period ...

Then......this one did."

Yeah Barrett.....we get it.....you don't like us.....and, we're not asking. @@@@ off!

He also clearly doesn't understand that draft position is literally one half of trade week

[gazza]

Don't know if old news but this was on the AFL website today:

"Unsigned: Harry Marsh, Jack Maibaum, Dan Robinson, James Rose, Robbie Fox, Toby Pink

Defender Nic Newman was close to agreeing to terms with North Melbourne before eventually being traded to Carlton. James Bell will be a Swan for another season, while Rose is close to a one-year extension. The wait goes on for Marsh, Maibaum, Robinson, Fox and Pink."

With Rose resigning looks like it will be Marsh who makes way. You'd think Pink would have to go too.

hang on to marsh, maibaum, fox. rose, robinson pink have run out of chances. how about a look at baguley from essendon

[liz]

Sorry but "recruiting from the Academy because its there" is an appalling idea.

That how we got Foote, who was never going to make it and just became another useless list clogger.

The 99% of kids who are in the Academy are going to be good amateurs, that its.

Occasionally there might be a gem, but that may happen ever five years or so.

There are far better prospects in SA, Vic or WA who deserve a chance at AFL.

And they might just turn out to be good footballers.

It's not really a direct competition, though, between academy players and those "better prospects in SA, VIC or WA". The club is allowed to carry up to three Cat B rookies on the list at any time. Draftees from our academy are eligible to be Cat B rookies, while those from SA, VIC and WA are not. And the number of Cat B rookies that the club carries does not affect the number of Cat A rookies that they are also allowed to carry.

So if the club thought Stewart, or Stern, or anyone else had something that was worthy of spending an extra year's development on, they don't have to choose between them and the next Ben Ronke or Lewis Melican or Tom Papley. This is an instance where we can have everyone (kinda).

[sprite]

Liz, being the oracle of things draft and recruiting.

If we were to pick Libba or any other player, does that have to be a two year contract at minium pay?

[KSAS]

Are there any big name free agents coming off contract next year? Hopefully a relatively quiet year will mean something big next year. Would like to see some more speed and skill in the middle.

Whilst the 2019 Free Agency field looks less appealing than 2018, I think Marcus Bontempli, Josh Kelly & Tom Mitchell come out of contract next year. Plus if this year is anything to go by where a unprecedented number of contracted players found new homes, the recruiting field is potentially wide open for 2019.

[liz]

Liz, being the oracle of things draft and recruiting.

If we were to pick Libba or any other player, does that have to be a two year contract at minium pay?

Libba is allowed to nominate his own terms. If the Dogs delist he can negotiate directly with any club that is interested as a DFA. If he delists himself he has to put himself into the draft (but elect to bypass the ND and go straight to the PSD). He can nominate his terms in either.

[Mel_C]

Barrett still doesn't know what "Sliding Doors" means ????.

Anyway...who cares where you finish on the trade ladder, it only matters where you finish on the premiership ladder! Last year it was all about Port and Essendon and neither made the finals.

[Ludwig]

Whilst the 2019 Free Agency field looks less appealing than 2018, I think Marcus Bontempli, Josh Kelly & Tom Mitchell come out of contract next year. Plus if this year is anything to go by where a unprecedented number of contracted players found new homes, the recruiting field is potentially wide open for 2019.

It's hard to project 12 months down the road, but our activity this year, or inactivity if you like, has only solidified our commitment to the draft and our current list of young players. I appears that we will rise or fall on their backs. There's not going to be a messiah coming in from some other club.

Of course someone like Josh Kelly would be a boon to any club, buts it's unlikely that we will be in the running for someone like Kelly, if indeed he would request a trade. I can't see him nominating that he wants to go to another Sydney club anyway. Bont-'n-Kelly (how's that for a mix 'n match?) is likely to see offers in the area of $1.5 mil a year. We're not going to be in a position to play that game.

I'm quite hopeful that Jackson Thurlow can find a spot in our backline. He's a talented player who just hasn't had a good run with injury and opportunity. He's a great size for a 3rd tall, has good speed and foot skills. He should actually be a better player than Langdon, who wasn't that great until half way through this year.

Ryan Clarke has a bit of reputation for turning the ball over, but let's see how he goes with our development team. The rest of his game is quite good.

A backline of Melican, Aliir, Thurlow, Rampe, COR and Stoddart could be very strong and certainly very quick. It changes the complexion of how we defend, going from a drop back one on one team to an intercept-rebound team. Maybe we give up some more points, but hopefully compensate with more scoring. It also allows Lloyd, Mills, Jones, Clarke and Ling to play though the midfield, and all would be good at dropping back to help in defence. That's like getting 5 new midfielders. So where is the problem with our midfield depth? I don't see it.

Are we good enough? We will just have to wait and see.

[Legs Akimbo]

Barrett still doesn't know what "Sliding Doors" means ????.

Anyway...who cares where you finish on the trade ladder, it only matters where you finish on the premiership ladder! Last year it was all about Port and Essendon and neither made the finals.

Yeah i don't rate our trade week either but bottom...nah. i can't believe he gets paid to write this drivel.

Sliding doors.

IF Damian Barrett is a journalist
THEN: (please complete)

[Ludwig]

Sliding doors.

IF Damian Barrett is a journalist
THEN: Mark Robinson must be a journalist too

Damian Barrett thought he was the big story news breaker, but a few others, like Sam McClure and Tom Morris have passed him. He's fallen out with Eddie. Well, I suppose that's one positive. But he only seems left with that silly Sliding Doors crap which is well past its used by date.

The footy journo space has become very crowded. There doesn't seem to be enough room for everyone. Maybe Damian Barrett will slowly fall away. He's not a very likable character.

[Melbourne_Blood]

No Neale, no Shiel, so who'll be 2019's big free agents? - AFL.com.au

No one of interest to be honest.

Thought the same when I looked at the list but going on recent history , it’s not just those will be free agents next year who can be targeted , but those with a year or two left before they become free agents. I’d like to see the list of 2020 and 2021 free agents


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[S.S. Bleeder]

No Neale, no Shiel, so who'll be 2019's big free agents? - AFL.com.au

No one of interest to be honest.

Using recent history as a guide, as long as you have only one year left on a contract and the buyer is willing to pay a fair price the trade will get done. Clubs are apprehensive to wait for a player to be out of contract as they have very little bargaining power.