2019 trading, drafting and list management: players and personnel

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  • Jeynez
    Warming the Bench
    • May 2013
    • 223

    Bennell has a lot more upside than Menzel. If we decide we want to recruit him after a medical test, I think he’s a pretty low risk, high reward recruitment.

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    • MattW
      Veterans List
      • May 2011
      • 4195

      Originally posted by Ludwig
      I can't see how Carlisle helps the Swans. At 28 in October, some injury concerns and off field issues, he's not exactly the kind of player we should want to add to our playing group. It also shuts the door for senior football for a lot of players competing for the main key defender role: Melican, McCartin, Pink, Maibaum. What happens to them?

      Anyway, I don't think a swap would be on offer. Perhaps Blake Acres for Jones wouldn't be bad, but I think Acres may be part of a Brad Hill deal, considering Acres is from Perth, but that's just conjecture as I don't recall anything about Acres wanting to 'go home'.

      I can understand that clubs would be interested in both Jones and Papley, but I don't see what the big draw would be for them to want to leave the Swans, nor why the Swans should capitulate and let either go easily.
      I don't want Carlisle either. His attitude was awful on Saturday and I think we have interesting KPD prospects.

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      • crackedactor
        Regular in the Side
        • May 2012
        • 919

        Originally posted by waswan
        +100
        In my untrained medical opinion though 2 games in 4 yrs doesnt scream recruit me
        MIckey O Discussing Harley Bennell 2013 - I've known HArley since he was in the AIS academy. I was his mentor there and to see him come on, he could be one of the really good players in the AFL, a real top liner.

        But he is also known for getting drunk and then picking fights. IF we risk him I would say one year would be enough.


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        • Foreign Legion
          Senior Player
          • Feb 2003
          • 3315

          I would let Jones go for the right reward - 16-25 ish draft pick - he is young quick and tough so would be disappointed to get less than that. Papley I would hang on to IF he wants to stay. Not sure why Melbourne would be a big pull for him when he is from Bunyip about 120KM's away.

          Carlisle I would consider if Saints paid say 300K of his 750K salary. I think I would back the club to straighten him up off field.

          The biggest question for our recruiters is which ruckmen do we hold on to? Sinclair for sure, but what about Naismith, Cameron and Knoll? I would hang on to Cameron before the other two.

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          • dejavoodoo44
            Veterans List
            • Apr 2015
            • 8497

            I see that Coniglio has just signed a long term deal to stay with the Giants. Good for him. While I'm no great fan of the Giants, I'm pleased that Hawthorn and Clarkson didn't get their way. Especially since some of the media, had already seemed to assume that it was a fait accompli.

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            • Markwebbos
              Veterans List
              • Jul 2016
              • 7186

              Originally posted by dejavoodoo44
              I see that Coniglio has just signed a long term deal to stay with the Giants. Good for him. While I'm no great fan of the Giants, I'm pleased that Hawthorn and Clarkson didn't get their way. Especially since some of the media, had already seemed to assume that it was a fait accompli.
              That's fantastic news! Really glad he's staying up here and shutting up some of the Melbourne Media. Presumably those clubs will now turn to their secondary targets?

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              Originally posted by stevoswan
              A girlfriend wanting to go home is not a genuine reason in my book.....if they were married maybe. Imagine if he went home to Victoria with his girlfriend and they broke up half way through next season.....
              We don't know the ins and outs of his personal situation. He may have a good reason. Or it may all be BS. Or his agent trying to renegotiate his current contract for more $?

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              • Foreign Legion
                Senior Player
                • Feb 2003
                • 3315

                Originally posted by dejavoodoo44
                I see that Coniglio has just signed a long term deal to stay with the Giants. Good for him. While I'm no great fan of the Giants, I'm pleased that Hawthorn and Clarkson didn't get their way. Especially since some of the media, had already seemed to assume that it was a fait accompli.
                Glad to hear that. The Giants needed this boost before the finals.

                I am sick to death of Hawthorn having a bottomless pit of money for players. I know some that go there get less money but have a look who they have recruited since Frawley - all would be on big cash.

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                • Ludwig
                  Veterans List
                  • Apr 2007
                  • 9359

                  Originally posted by stevoswan
                  Apparently the latest surgeon is a 'calf guru'


                  Originally posted by Ralph Dawg
                  Can we rookie list Harley? If so, nothing really to lose there.
                  Tom Harley?

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                  • Auntie.Gerald
                    Veterans List
                    • Oct 2009
                    • 6474

                    Looks like the AFL big wigs supported the gws coniglio stay in Sydney contract
                    "be tough, only when it gets tough"

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                    • Auntie.Gerald
                      Veterans List
                      • Oct 2009
                      • 6474

                      Trade out : Jones

                      Trade In : Bennell and Martin

                      Now that would be amazing

                      Imagine both players in full flight alternating between the HBF and Forward Pocket In 2020 with buddy

                      It would be a riot !

                      Oh well we can keep dreaming and see what eventuates but it would be quite possible $ wise you would think given we have the youngest list in the Comp ?
                      "be tough, only when it gets tough"

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                      • Ludwig
                        Veterans List
                        • Apr 2007
                        • 9359

                        Originally posted by stevoswan

                        Bennell's surgery last week identified a nerve issue and involved removing muscle that was scarred and causing problems.

                        The operation was deemed a success."

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                        • Ludwig
                          Veterans List
                          • Apr 2007
                          • 9359

                          Originally posted by Auntie.Gerald
                          Trade out : Jones

                          Trade In : Bennell and Martin

                          Now that would be amazing
                          This is Jack Martin we are talking about, not Dustin Martin. Jack Martin is a shadow of the player Zak Jones is, and comes with a higher price tag. I hear he's getting 600k pa a GC and is looking for a raise.

                          Anyway, it seems that he wants to go to Victoria, as they all do, so not much to contemplate here.

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                          • Foreign Legion
                            Senior Player
                            • Feb 2003
                            • 3315

                            Yep I would not be going near Jack Martin. OK player but that is it. Hopefully Carlton or Hawthorn get him as I hate those clubs.

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                            • S.S. Bleeder
                              Senior Player
                              • Sep 2014
                              • 2165

                              Originally posted by Ralph Dawg
                              The whole Mitchell situation and to a lesser extent Membrey and Nankervis, just stank to high heaven. We got so done over.
                              If the club brokers similar deals or worse, I think we as supporters need to revolt. Maybe a peaceful sit in at HQ until whoever is responsible resigns.
                              +1.

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                              • Auntie.Gerald
                                Veterans List
                                • Oct 2009
                                • 6474

                                Sounds like Carlton are convinced they can split pick 8 into two first round picks and that will be enough for Paps and Martin ?

                                If that is the case let’s make it difficult and paps stays if the rumours are true

                                Ps jack Martin won’t be achieving $600k pa plus at a decent club. The only reason he is on that salary is because he was at the Suns

                                I don’t think even Carlton would spend that pa would they ?

                                Saints might though lol

                                I think jack Martin if he was smart would take a $450k pa at the Swans and tear it apart with buddy in his final years

                                Staying away from the intensity of Melbourne and VFL would be smart

                                Ps pretty sure Martin and Jones have the same AFL fantasy points avge and one player is in a completely crap team and the other is in a much stronger team and culture

                                Martin double the amount of tackles per game
                                Last edited by Auntie.Gerald; 27 August 2019, 09:39 PM.
                                "be tough, only when it gets tough"

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