2020 trading, drafting and list management: players and personnel

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  • MattW
    Veterans List
    • May 2011
    • 4195

    Originally posted by andy0414
    How about Hickey and Brander for pick 29
    Ok, but that would mean losing someone else from our shrinking list to make way for Brander.

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    • Melbourne_Blood
      Senior Player
      • May 2010
      • 3312

      Originally posted by Ludwig
      These managers deserve to get air time exactly because of what you say. They are the ones who have taken control of the system, so they have become the ones with the most information. It's for us to sort out what is propaganda and what is factual.





      I don't think we should attribute too much of this chatter to Aliir himself, but rather to Paul Connor, who's creating a story line to extract the biggest contract for Aliir and biggest commission for himself. It's true that Aliir's value decreases when he plays away from his best position, because he looks pretty ordinary. With free agency on the horizon for him, of course he should want to play in a position the enhances his value the most.

      If you're an accountant, but your boss has you cleaning the toilets, you wouldn't think it was helping your career development.
      I disagree, Allir has played his best footy over the last couple of years in the ruck. Not saying that’s his best position by any stretch but he hasn’t produced anywhere near his best down back ( yeah I get he’s been thrown around a lot ) in that time. His only eye catching games since 2018 have been in the ruck. His clearance work especially.

      His defensive games have been mostly ordinary for a while . Even when he played forward he played fairly well. It’s ok if he wants to play down back full time but he needs to perform there or he becomes ‘moveable ‘. Yes, being moved around due to injuries doesn’t help his chances too much so it’s a bit of a catch 22. Doesn’t change the fact he’s probably been the one ‘thrown around’ at least in part due to his lack of consistently good performance in his preferred position.


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      • bloodspirit
        Clubman
        • Apr 2015
        • 4448

        Originally posted by MattW
        Ok, but that would mean losing someone else from our shrinking list to make way for Brander.
        In this scenario I'm thinking that's Aliir, who we've traded to get pick 29.
        All opinions are not equal. Some are a very great deal more robust, sophisticated, and well supported in logic and argument than others. -Douglas Adams, author (11 Mar 1952-2001)

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        • Auntie.Gerald
          Veterans List
          • Oct 2009
          • 6474

          We have 6 guys who can all chip in as intercept type players and all have good and bad re disposal and attack......its alot to pick from

          AA
          Fox
          Dawson
          Mills
          Thurlow
          Gould
          "be tough, only when it gets tough"

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          • Aprilbr
            Senior Player
            • Oct 2016
            • 1803

            The Trading Day commentators on Fox Footy are talking about AA as though he is heading to Port. Its important that we don't lose players just as they come into their prime years. We lost Zac Jones last year in that category. Will AA be the next? I hope not. He was in Adelaide today apparently.

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            • ernie koala
              Senior Player
              • May 2007
              • 3251

              Letting Aliir go for pick 29...Which I guess = Hickey....

              Aliir for Hickey.....Really really bad trade..

              Please don't do it Swans
              Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it's time to pause and reflect... MT

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              • Aprilbr
                Senior Player
                • Oct 2016
                • 1803

                I'm not sure if it will work out with that trade but if so it seems to be a pretty ordinary deal from our perspective. I would rather take our chances next season if we cannot re-sign him.

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                • waswan
                  Senior Player
                  • Oct 2015
                  • 2047

                  If we turn Alir into Hickey we should chuck in KB too

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                  • Markwebbos
                    Veterans List
                    • Jul 2016
                    • 7186

                    I hope we’ll say, if you want AA, you’ll have to hand over a ruckman and a pick. Take it or leave it. He’s a contracted player.

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                    • Auntie.Gerald
                      Veterans List
                      • Oct 2009
                      • 6474

                      2020 trading, drafting and list management: players and personnel

                      If Peter Wright is on $500k pa as a forward ruckman

                      What do we suspect Hickey would want to come to the swans ?

                      86 goals from 66 games for 24yr old Peter Wright

                      I wonder if we enquired ?
                      Last edited by ugg; 10 November 2020, 09:07 AM. Reason: Removed URL link as it’s causing issues on desktop browser
                      "be tough, only when it gets tough"

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                      • Mark26
                        Senior Player
                        • Jan 2017
                        • 1535

                        Originally posted by Aprilbr
                        Its important that we don't lose players just as they come into their prime years. We lost Zac Jones last year in that category. Will AA be the next? I hope not. He was in Adelaide today apparently.
                        I totally agree. If we lose AA and bring in Hickey, then our draft strategy is compromised again as it was with losing Jones. Going to the draft and building up the young brigade is useless if you lose them in their mid twenties. We need to keep AA. Otherwise, our draft strategy is like someone trying to fill a barrel with water using a sieve.

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                        • KTigers
                          Senior Player
                          • Apr 2012
                          • 2499

                          Originally posted by Markwebbos
                          Something fishy is going on, AA claims he wants to play as a full-time back. And his manager says he had a "difficult year" being played all over the place. As a result he wants to be traded to Port who like his versatility, which includes playing him in the ruck.
                          Maybe we should just let all the players decide where they are going to play on the field. I'm sure they know best.

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                          • bloodspirit
                            Clubman
                            • Apr 2015
                            • 4448

                            Originally posted by andy0414
                            How about Hickey and Brander for pick 29
                            Sad though I'll be if we lose Aliir, I would be satisfied with that trade. No way would only Hickey be sufficient. Hickey at age 29 or 30 or whatever it is, is just not worth pick 29.

                            Aliir can be a star but maybe he'll shine more somewhere else. We haven't quite been able to get the best out of him. That said, he hasn't reached his peak yet in my opinion.
                            All opinions are not equal. Some are a very great deal more robust, sophisticated, and well supported in logic and argument than others. -Douglas Adams, author (11 Mar 1952-2001)

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                            • waswan
                              Senior Player
                              • Oct 2015
                              • 2047

                              Cant imagine that being good for the thread AG

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                              • bloodspirit
                                Clubman
                                • Apr 2015
                                • 4448

                                Big news: Melican, Ling & Amartey given contracts! Melican 3 years, Ling & Amartey just 1 year deals.
                                https://www.sydneyswans.com.au/news/834703/swans-lock-in-young-trio


                                So Thurlow, Foot, McLean (and Ronke?) still waiting. Who else? Can someone confirm we already re-signed Wicks please or is he also still waiting?
                                My memory is failing me - can someone please clarify who remains on the list without a contract at this stage? Thanks
                                All opinions are not equal. Some are a very great deal more robust, sophisticated, and well supported in logic and argument than others. -Douglas Adams, author (11 Mar 1952-2001)

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