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  • Ludwig
    Veterans List
    • Apr 2007
    • 9359

    Originally posted by Ludwig
    It could be interesting if we added both a McCartin and a Papley to the list this year.
    I'm really warming to the idea of Paddy McCartin. There must be high tech energy absorbing helmets that can mitigate the risk of serious concussion. It would be a good moneyball signing.

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    • MattW
      Veterans List
      • May 2011
      • 4195

      Originally posted by 707
      Paddy McCartin is free to obtain and won't be on much money so worth a shot. He's trimmed down and in good shape.
      If it is medically safe for him to return, I'm all for it. Low risk, could offer what we need.

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      • stevoswan
        Veterans List
        • Sep 2014
        • 8545

        Originally posted by Legs Akimbo
        I wonder what shape is brain is in as opposed to his body? That sounds awful but it is important for his well being. We should only draft him if he is not at risk of long term harm. I am struggling to see how that can be the case.
        Fair enough but all players are one decent head hit away from a career ending injury.....while some go their entire career without one head hit or concussion. It's a calculated risk that all players take.....and he loves footy enough to take that risk. So should we.....

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        • The Big Cat
          On the veteran's list
          • Apr 2006
          • 2350

          Originally posted by KSAS
          Interesting, if this rumour is true does it mean we're not interested in Daniher
          Maybe they’re interested in both. Combine with Bud and Reid we might be assured of having one on the park.
          Those who have the greatest power to hurt us are those we love.

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          • Ralph Dawg
            Senior Player
            • Apr 2018
            • 1729

            Just a thought. If we had 750k + a year to offer Daniher, do we not have that money free this year? Are we going to make a play for Cameron? Paddy, Cameron, Buddy and Paps up forward. Now that would be a potent forward line if we can get it in there........

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            • Auntie.Gerald
              Veterans List
              • Oct 2009
              • 6474

              Starting to think a little wider

              I wonder if we are after Jeremy Cameron and PaddyMc and letting Reidy move back to Melb........Sam Reid is turning 29yrs of age.......no doubt baby in sight soon and to secure a 3yr contract down in melb with family support could make a lot of sense.......this strategy by players in this life cycle has been embraced quite often over the years
              "be tough, only when it gets tough"

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              • Auntie.Gerald
                Veterans List
                • Oct 2009
                • 6474

                "be tough, only when it gets tough"

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                • Markwebbos
                  Veterans List
                  • Jul 2016
                  • 7186

                  Caroline Wilson expressed the view that Paddy should not play AFL again. I can see her point if he gets picked up and does himself permanent damage.

                  I’m two minds about it. If he is not at any more risk than anyone else then sure. Otherwise no.

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                  • Aaron
                    Regular in the Side
                    • Jan 2009
                    • 805

                    Originally posted by Auntie.Gerald
                    -?? The list was published in April and definitely not updated enough.
                    This one was published in September : AFL 2020, AFL trades, AFL free agency, list of AFL free agents, whispers, AFL trade news, Jeremy Cameron, Brad Crouch | Fox Sports
                    and with clubs now delisting players, there will be many addition of "delisted" free agents.

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                    • Aaron
                      Regular in the Side
                      • Jan 2009
                      • 805

                      Originally posted by Auntie.Gerald
                      ... letting Reidy move back to Melb........Sam Reid is turning 29yrs of age.......no doubt baby in sight soon and to secure a 3yr contract down in melb with family support could make a lot of sense......
                      Reid already has a 1 year old son andin an interview in 2017 (https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/...07-gxquxi.html) , he said, "There's no real reason why I would like to leave here. My soon-to-be wife is from up here, she's got a really close-knit family that have been very accepting of me from day one.
                      "My parents get up here pretty much every second week to watch me as well. I'm not missing out on too much being up here, I've got a few mates down in Melbourne but in terms of the lifestyle, and the weather ... it's really good and I've just grown to love it over the past eight years." Don't think he has changed his mind now.

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                      • Legs Akimbo
                        Grand Poobah
                        • Apr 2005
                        • 2809

                        Originally posted by Ludwig
                        I'm really warming to the idea of Paddy McCartin. There must be high tech energy absorbing helmets that can mitigate the risk of serious concussion. It would be a good moneyball signing.
                        There isn't because it doesn't work that way. Concussion is caused by the brain being shaken in the skull. It is the motion that does the damage. Gridiron players wear huge helmets and it doesn't help at all. If i was Paddy is have well and truly hung up the boots. The risks are too great. Danny Frawley's experiences say it all. I'd suggest we have a duty of care to not draft let alone select a player with that concussion history. I feel for Paddy but his health is more important.
                        He had observed that people who did lie were, on the whole, more resourceful and ambitious and successful than people who did not lie.

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                        • AB Swannie
                          Senior Player
                          • Mar 2017
                          • 1579

                          Originally posted by Aaron
                          Reid already has a 1 year old son andin an interview in 2017 (https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/...07-gxquxi.html) , he said, "There's no real reason why I would like to leave here. My soon-to-be wife is from up here, she's got a really close-knit family that have been very accepting of me from day one.
                          "My parents get up here pretty much every second week to watch me as well. I'm not missing out on too much being up here, I've got a few mates down in Melbourne but in terms of the lifestyle, and the weather ... it's really good and I've just grown to love it over the past eight years." Don't think he has changed his mind now.
                          Good post. There is often chat on here about moving players like Reid without considering these other facts. Reid is going nowhere. The same type of chat has been strangely said about Hewitt and him moving back to Adelaide with no substance and without consideration that his wife is actually from the UK.

                          In terms of Paddy McCartin, I would definitely be happy to have him at the club. Seems like a ripping bloke from a great family. I can see him setting standards working his arse off on the training track to be given another shot. It must be so hard being promised the world as a consensus pick 1 and then having it taken away from you. I'm happy to trust the medicos and Paddy to make the right call. Of course, there is risk but we've shown before (with AJ in particular), that if you've got the talent and the right attitude we will give you our full support.

                          It does seem that Daniher is less likely to be coming this way or I think we would've heard more by now. This stage last year, every journo and their parrot was confident of JD coming our way. Not so this year.

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                          • mattybloods
                            Warming the Bench
                            • Jul 2016
                            • 482

                            If there's greater long term risks for concussion or CTE I would hope he wouldn't be medically cleared. After that it's his decision and if he plays I hope he joins the swans

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                            • Nico
                              Veterans List
                              • Jan 2003
                              • 11329

                              Originally posted by Ludwig
                              I'm really warming to the idea of Paddy McCartin. There must be high tech energy absorbing helmets that can mitigate the risk of serious concussion. It would be a good moneyball signing.
                              I always thought he was over rated. Seemed to me he had no idea of where to lead.
                              http://www.nostalgiamusic.co.uk/secu...res/srh806.jpg

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                              • Nico
                                Veterans List
                                • Jan 2003
                                • 11329

                                Originally posted by Auntie.Gerald
                                Starting to think a little wider

                                I wonder if we are after Jeremy Cameron and PaddyMc and letting Reidy move back to Melb........Sam Reid is turning 29yrs of age.......no doubt baby in sight soon and to secure a 3yr contract down in melb with family support could make a lot of sense.......this strategy by players in this life cycle has been embraced quite often over the years
                                Sam's family is from Bright in northern Victoria so not sure family support is an issue. Isn't his wife from Sydney?
                                http://www.nostalgiamusic.co.uk/secu...res/srh806.jpg

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