2020 trading, drafting and list management: players and personnel

[Markwebbos]

Yes, pick 3: assuming that he takes a pay cut, and that he's willing to put up with feral Pies fans, for the next five years or so.

If we take Brodie Grundy it would be a salary dump by the Pies, which means either (a) they pay a chunk of his wage or (b) we get him for a much lower pick e.g. second rounder.

I posted an article a while back suggesting that the Pies have totally stuffed up with Grundy’s contract (they have) and should try and get themselves out of trouble by trading him to a sucker club, who pick up his ludicrous contract.

Sam Hayes seems like a much better option.

[Markwebbos]

As an aside, SEN is reporting that early discussions between Brisbane and the Dodo about Joe Daniher are "far from smooth"

Early Daniher discussions far from smooth between Bombers and Lions

[barry]

As an aside, SEN is reporting that early discussions between Brisbane and the Dodo about Joe Daniher are "far from smooth"

Early Daniher discussions far from smooth between Bombers and Lions

He's coming to us in the pre-season draft, I tells ya!

[KTigers]

As an aside, SEN is reporting that early discussions between Brisbane and the Dodo about Joe Daniher are "far from smooth"

Early Daniher discussions far from smooth between Bombers and Lions

Why would they be? Joe will want a lot of money and the understanding that he will only play if he has
nothing else on that day. It it wasn't for Covid he'd be wandering around Chelsea in New York sampling
single-origin coffees from Ecuador with Jobe Watson right now.

[The Runner]

What are the odds we don't match any bid for Braeden Campbell ? Likely to go in the 6 to 10 range, which is better than a bid coming before our pick 3. But what if we still think a top 10 is too high for him and we arent willing to sacrifice the picks and the points that could be used on trading instead ?? Do people think this could be a likely outcome or are the club that invested in this kid .

Always get the best player possible in any trade or draft pick. What you're essentially saying is, do we value Campbell or 2 later draft picks. Always go the better option. Take Campbell.

[Ludwig]

He's coming to us in the pre-season draft, I tells ya!

Wow. Another big call.

Hang in there Barry. If you turn out to be right, you'll be an unassailable prophet for years.

[Auntie.Gerald]

"If the Lions can get Daniher across the line it would be the fourth straight off-season they have traded in (or accrued via free agency) a non-Queenslander. A mix of personnel, climate, coaches, players and environment have been credited for the change in dynamic which has thrust Brisbane into premiership contention."

i wonder if we will switch gears also ?

[Ludwig]

He's pleaded guilty.
I assume that there's a provision in AFL contracts, that allows a club to delist a play who commits a jailable offence. I mean, I can't recall any company, being forced to continue to employ someone, while they serve their time. If he doesn't get a prison sentence, I still think that we should delist him. Otherwise the club's stated commitment to values, will sound just like empty corporate PR blather.

It's baffling that after so many years no one has ever provided a copy of an actual player contract or even a pro forma contract. Where are the AFL leakers and whistleblowers? What are those thousands of sports journalists doing all day?

With image being so important to the AFL, I would think that there would be termination provisions for a level of misconduct that almost certainly would include the commission of a felony.

I don't think the Swans want to publicize an ET termination. Why would we highlight a player welfare issue at a time when we are likely negotiating to recruit players from other clubs? We're not even doing delistings right now. We will probably wait until after the end of the season when it's buried under other trade and delisting news.

[707]

As an aside, SEN is reporting that early discussions between Brisbane and the Dodo about Joe Daniher are "far from smooth"

Well what a surprise! Dodo has to try and save face after rejecting pick 9 & this years now pick 3. Suffer Dodo, PSD to us is always a fall back position for JD

[Mr Magoo]

Always get the best player possible in any trade or draft pick. What you're essentially saying is, do we value Campbell or 2 later draft picks. Always go the better option. Take Campbell.

Campbells a lock no matter what happens

[Markwebbos]

"If the Lions can get Daniher across the line it would be the fourth straight off-season they have traded in (or accrued via free agency) a non-Queenslander. A mix of personnel, climate, coaches, players and environment have been credited for the change in dynamic which has thrust Brisbane into premiership contention."

i wonder if we will switch gears also ?

I have a hope (more likely fantasy) that the Swans made a strategic decision when they chose mid-season to offload Rohan and Hanners. That decision was to rebuild via the draft and (this is the bit I'm secretly hoping) and to use the extra $ they saved to front load player contracts (including potentially Buddy's). We should now be entering the last year of the plan. By the end of season 2021 we will finally have enough youth (including the 2 academy boys), improved our ladder position, and freed up cap space, to enable us to go after ready made players at other clubs.

I think this year is still too soon for us to be "switching gears"

[707]

We can't front load Buddy's contract, it hasto be paid exactly as it was in the contract offer we made. This applies to every RFA contract.

Next year Buddy is on $1.5 mill (unless it's reduced by the across the league reductions proposed), in 2022 Buddy is only on $1 mill.

[Auntie.Gerald]

Hey Mark

my gut feeling is that we can "walk and chew gum" re providing our list the best opportunity to evolve.....

ie if the exact type of experienced AFL level player (that we require) becomes available, we will no doubt consider our trade currency even if that means like other clubs using some of next years

This was fairly clear within our strategy with JD last season

[Melbourne_Blood]

Hey Mark

my gut feeling is that we can "walk and chew gum" re providing our list the best opportunity to evolve.....

ie if the exact type of experienced AFL level player (that we require) becomes available, we will no doubt consider our trade currency even if that means like other clubs using some of next years

This was fairly clear within our strategy with JD last season

I agree. The idea we can not afford to go after a player this year but we can next year ignores the fact that we can structure the contract in a way to make it work for us ( ie back ending it eg Buddy). If the opportunity presents itself this year then we should go for it. It could only speed up our potential to rise up the ladder.


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[Markwebbos]

The point I was trying to make is that: I suspect we are not in that strong a position to recruit ready made players this year due to (1) buddy's contract (2) ladder position, to which I'll add (3) draft picks (although we could use pick 3). I'm not saying we won't be going after players this year (we allegedly have with JD), more that we'll be in a much better position this time next year.