2020 trading, drafting and list management: players and personnel

[Ludwig]

I'm not convinced JUH is a forward. Think he wants to play in the midfield, eventually. He's 196cm though.

It hardly matters as far as we're concerned. He's going to the Dogs no matter what. If he's still available at pick 3, we will definitely bid on him, to keep WB honest, but I expect he will get a bid at 1 or 2.

[The Runner]

I don't think we're in any position to complain about draft concessions. We get it very very good from a draft perspective - there are reasonable reasons why, and it should remain as is for northern academies. But we are the last that should complain about sliding in draft picks.

Interested to see what we offer for Hickey. Perhaps a 2021 third round pick? Probably the least valuable asset we own to us.

[bloodspirit]

Saints have made out like bandits with Crouch! Paying him moderately and getting him for free in trade terms. I wish them well. Rather them than most other Melbourne clubs getting a bit of luck.

Great news re NGAs! I hadn't heard. Even better than the Crows not getting pick 2 as compensation for Crouch and us winding up with pick 3 ahead of Hawthorn. There have been a few things go right for us. I can live with having our pick 3 slip back one spot one time, especially given we benefit from the Academy.

[AB Swannie]

I don't think we're in any position to complain about draft concessions. We get it very very good from a draft perspective - there are reasonable reasons why, and it should remain as is for northern academies. But we are the last that should complain about sliding in draft picks.

Interested to see what we offer for Hickey. Perhaps a 2021 third round pick? Probably the least valuable asset we own to us.

Agree. We get bent over on many other things but drafting good academy kids at a discount is not one of them.

For Hickey, I wonder if we could do something like:

In: Hickey, pick 34
Out: 2021 2nd round

[Markwebbos]

Agree. We get bent over on many other things but drafting good academy kids at a discount is not one of them.

For Hickey, I wonder if we could do something like:

In: Hickey, pick 34
Out: 2021 2nd round

I like it. Gives us an extra 500 or so points this year and a ruckman.

[MattW]

Tom Hickey to @sydneyswans will happen, but unlikely today. Trade means Nathan Vardy likely to get another contract at @WestCoastEagles - had a horror year which included time in hospital for compartment syndrome.

— Ryan Daniels (@FootyRhino) November 4, 2020

Fair enough, goodo.

[ugg]

Is the fact the trade isn't going to be done today meaning the Swans are trying to get another pick from elsewhere to pass on for Hickey?

[Markwebbos]

Is the fact the trade isn't going to be done today meaning the Swans are trying to get another pick from elsewhere to pass on for Hickey?

Good question. I'm hoping they'll chuck in Brander as "steak knives"

[Ludwig]

Is the fact the trade isn't going to be done today meaning the Swans are trying to get another pick from elsewhere to pass on for Hickey?

Hickey is a giveaway. He's a backup to the backup ruckman. And I'm giving him the benefit to the doubt. A pick in the 50s is too much. The most I would offer is a 4th round pick.

I hope we're waiting to see if we can do a deal for someone else.

[AB Swannie]

Is the fact the trade isn't going to be done today meaning the Swans are trying to get another pick from elsewhere to pass on for Hickey?

Most likely there are dominos to fall one way or another before the trade is done. What they are is anyone’s guess. I doubt either party are playing hard ball but there is something in the pipeline that makes it more palatable for one or the other.

[707]

I'm not convinced JUH is a forward. Think he wants to play in the midfield, eventually. He's 196cm though.

Oooh, that's nearly as tall as Patrick Cripps!

[The Runner]

Agree. We get bent over on many other things but drafting good academy kids at a discount is not one of them.

For Hickey, I wonder if we could do something like:

In: Hickey, pick 34
Out: 2021 2nd round

That's a good move. If we incur a deficit, going from pick 45 to 60 is less impactful than 25-35 next year.

[Thunder Shaker]

That's a good move. If we incur a deficit, going from pick 45 to 60 is less impactful than 25-35 next year.

That assumes Gulden won't be drafted in the first round. The first round of the draft currently has 21 picks and I'm expecting Gulden to be drafted in the 20-25 range.

[Markwebbos]

Jesse Hogan to the Giants for pick 54! Guess they are paying his entire salary next year then.

I was wrong, according to the Age, "Jesse Hogan has left more $500,000 on the table after tearing up his contract and accepting a new one-year deal with the Giants as he attempts to revive his flagging AFL career ... he was prepared to negotiate a new deal with Greater Western Sydney in order to give himself a fresh start with them."

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/saints-watching-treloar-over-collingwood-s-shoulder-20201104-p56bk3.html

So they got him for nothing and they are paying him little

[Swanny79]

That’s the attitude of someone who is invested in turning his career around.....disappointed we didn’t pick him up