2020 trading, drafting and list management: players and personnel

[Thunder Shaker]

We have a pick after Gulden that has no points attached. If we are using a future pick then that stays I think???

The picks are rubbery, especially those after the fifth round which aren't listed. Don't take them too seriously.

[Ludwig]

If list sizes are cut by 3 then we are at the limit right now to take a max of 3 draft picks. If we want to add another player, we have to cut another player. I'm assuming ET will be cut, so that would take care of it. Assuming we do, then we could pick up Paddy McCartin or hold an open spot for mid season drafts and see if we can get someone additional at that time. With pick 3 in all the supplemental drafts next year, it wouldn't be a bad idea to have a vacancy on our list.

[Mr Magoo]

I know midfielders are getting bigger, not sure if there are many 200cm + ones running around though...

Impressive highlights reel. Good hands , neat kick and height. Id take him in a flash. Whats the negatives ?

[Auntie.Gerald]

i suspect we will get another shot at an early mid next year plus two this year in Campbell and Gulden

good chance then we will go for Thilthorpe:

our time to shine probably being realistically 2022/23 so time to develop
our mids in bulk already
cover for 3 years in the ruck but need more coming thru
has ability to play a JD type role maybe early?

..............does anyone else feel like they have a fat tongue when saying Rileys surname out loud

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Cal Twomey's Phantom Form Guide: November edition

[Scottee]

I like the look of him to but the downside is that he looks to be very much an Adelaide boy; go home factor would be the big worry.

[stevoswan]

Thilthorpe is actually a KPF, not a ruck. He can play in the ruck as well, but that's not his primary position. He can also play like a very tall midfielder.

If a club is trying to decide to draft a midfielder or a tall, Thilthorpe would be a good choice because he's a bit of both.

The kids got the skills.....looks good. I wouldn't be unhappy if we drafted him.

[stevoswan]

I like the look of him to but the downside is that he looks to be very much an Adelaide boy; go home factor would be the big worry.

We seem to have no problem drafting SA boys......last years draft a case in point.

[Auntie.Gerald]

and the best part..........in the near future we can get a stack of mid 30s or mid 40s picks in return for Dawson, Hewett, Hayward, Gouldie and Stephens when trading with Adelaide or Port

[giant]

This was the Age article where (apparently) "Sydney were intent on loading up on draft points to match any rival bids on academy prospects Braeden Campbell and Errol Gulden at next month's draft, where they are likely to use their No.3 selection on highly rated defender Denver Grainger-Barras from WAFL club Swan Districts, who looms as a long-term intercept prospect."

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/swans-trade-aliir-to-port-adelaide-for-future-second-round-pick-20201111-p56dma.html

Struggle to think of another Swans Districts player we've recruited nws the obvious ornithological synergy!

[MattW]

I like the look of him to but the downside is that he looks to be very much an Adelaide boy; go home factor would be the big worry.

The Crows will have their chance.

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This was the Age article where (apparently) "Sydney were intent on loading up on draft points to match any rival bids on academy prospects Braeden Campbell and Errol Gulden at next month's draft, where they are likely to use their No.3 selection on highly rated defender Denver Grainger-Barras from WAFL club Swan Districts, who looms as a long-term intercept prospect."

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/swans-trade-aliir-to-port-adelaide-for-future-second-round-pick-20201111-p56dma.html

Struggle to think of another Swans Districts player we've recruited nws the obvious ornithological synergy!

Yeah right - didn't pick up Vince breaking that. We must prefer DGB over Thilthorpe.

[Thunder Shaker]

List of NGA and F/S prospects, from Twomey's November form guide:

#1 Jamarra Ugle-Hagan - Western Bulldogs NGA
#8 Braeden Campbell - Sydney Swans Academy
#9 Lachie Jones - Port Adelaide NGA
#14 Alex Davies - Gold Coast Academy (can be pre-listed by the Suns)
#18 Joel Jeffrey - Gold Coast Academy (can be pre-listed by the Suns)
#20 Reef McInnes - Collingwood NGA
#22 Errol Gulden - Sydney Swans Academy
#23 Connor Downie - Hawthorn NGA

A selection of other Academy prospects:

Brandon Walker - Fremantle NGA
Joel Western - Fremantle NGA
Tariek Newchurch - Adelaide NGA
Brodie Lake - Gold Coast Academy (can be pre-listed by the Suns)
Blake Coleman - Brisbane Academy

Points bearing picks for clubs listed above (except Gold Coast), with a likely draft strategy for each club:

Adelaide: 1, 9, 22, 23, 40, 56, 66 (6832) - use two to four picks before matching a bid on Tariek Newchurch
Brisbane: 25, 53, 58, 63, 68, 69 (1379) - use one pick before matching a bid on Blake Coleman
Collingwood: 14, 16, 65 (2318) - use one pick before recruiting Reef McInnes directly, or match if early bid is made
Fremantle: 12, 32, 55 (2059) - draft strategy for their NGA prospects isn't immediately obvious with the picks they have. May be recruiting only one of them or looking for pick swaps?
Hawthorn: 4, 24, 45, 46, 49, 72 (3803) - use one or two picks before matching a bid on Connor Downie
Port Adelaide: 35, 47, 57, 59, 73 (1187) - use their picks to match a bid on Lachie Jones
Sydney Swans: 3, 31, 34, 43, 60 (3906) - use one pick before matching bids on Braeden Campbell and Errol Gulden
Western Bulldogs: 26, 33, 41, 42, 54 (2319) - use their picks to match a bid on Jamarra Ugle-Hagan

[Thunder Shaker]

This was the Age article where (apparently) "Sydney were intent on loading up on draft points to match any rival bids on academy prospects Braeden Campbell and Errol Gulden at next month's draft, where they are likely to use their No.3 selection on highly rated defender Denver Grainger-Barras from WAFL club Swan Districts, who looms as a long-term intercept prospect."

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/swans-trade-aliir-to-port-adelaide-for-future-second-round-pick-20201111-p56dma.html

Struggle to think of another Swans Districts player we've recruited nws the obvious ornithological synergy!

Here is the highlights package for Denver Grainger-Barras:

[Aaron]

I like the look of him to but the downside is that he looks to be very much an Adelaide boy; go home factor would be the big worry.

In an interview quoted at Catching up with a Croweater - Riley Thilthorpe - SANFL Riley Thilthorpe "... Describing himself as a ”big Crows fan”, Thilthorpe enjoys watching, and trying to emulate, the running patterns of experienced Adelaide forward Tom Lynch." and he had trained with Port Adelaide as well.

[707]

Impressive highlights reel. Good hands , neat kick and height. Id take him in a flash. Whats the negatives ?

Been out with a groin for the last part of the SANFL season. No club knows more about Thilthorpe than the Crows so if they don't take him at pick 2 (after bidding on the draft's best player JUH) then you'd have to wonder, particularly with the "go home" problems they constantly have, a problem that will be exacerbated as they start the long road off the bottom.

Doubt McDonald gets past North, so it could be Hollands who I really like, DGB if we bite the bullet for an intercept defender at pick 3, or Phillips who as a 17yo was not far behind Rowell and Anderson.

We should get a gem at pick 3, plus Campbell and Gulden, should be a Golden draft :-) I'd like Papley Jnr with a late pick, Swans man through and through.

Paddy McCartin, for those that asked, can be added for free as a delisted player. Our current pick 82 will be in points bearing territory by the time Gulden gets a bid.

[Thunder Shaker]

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