Covid 19 and footy - season (suspended) now resumed

[erica]

Well that's a spanner in the works, if Storm can't train the ten Vic sides can't train either. Training won't resume for the other sides if Vic sides are banned from training.

So looks like eight non Vic teams can train in bigger numbers, now up to the Vic clubs and players to get out of their Melbourne comfort zones.

Nothing stopping the Victorian teams relocating to another state to train, is there?

[Boddo]

Nothing stopping the Victorian teams relocating to another state to train, is there?

Tell that to Cotch n the boys. Leaving Victoria is not a familiar thing for sides like Richmond & Collingwood.

At least they’re providing a good comedy routine to keep the WA & Freo boys entertained.

[707]

Nothing stopping the Victorian teams relocating to another state to train, is there?

If it's good enough for the Storm and good enough for the NZ Warriors it's good enough for Richmond and Collingwood to not hold back the recommencement of the season by relocating until Dan Andrews eases restrictions.

If we are delayed by the ten Vic teams refusing to temporarily move states then I doubt we'll see a season. Very annoying that the NRL is leading the way

[Boddo]

If we are delayed by the ten Vic teams refusing to temporarily move states then I doubt we'll see a season. Very annoying that the NRL is leading the way

I’d be shocked if we never saw a season. As much as Cotch n the boys are crying about doing what the ADF & FIFO workers do on a regular basis imagine the uproar from the other 99% of players who would have to forgo a season of wages just so Cotch n the boys didn’t have to leave Melbourne.

Plus the AFL will have a season as there is just way to much money to be lost without a season.

They also would be concerned that the SANFL will fill the void until October and then the NTFL from October if there’s no season.

If there’s no AFL some of the money left over by Foxtel & C7 that would normally go to AFL contracts will get thrown at the SANFL or another league to allow content for their services.

Like I’ve linked previously SA/WA/NT will have normal flights first. So it’s a very very remote possibility you could have a central west Australian football league.

The AFL know this but the Melbourne media cronies will never report on it.

The AFL do not own Australian rules football. If it ceases to exist tomorrow there would be another league to uptake that void.

But I’m certain we’ll get a restart. It’s not about health and all about money.

[Boddo]

6,799 Coronavirus Cases and 95 Deaths in Australia - COVID Live

Latest figures have Queensland with lower figures than Victoria. With this trend I can’t see how Victorian restrictions will be lifted to allow FIFO for Victorian sides.

[barry]

Isolation hubs are a little extreme, but one of the big benefits is they can withstand another outbreak or second wave much better a strategy of waiting for rates to come down and staying at home.

A stay at home strategy would probably see a stop-start season.

[Boddo]

Isolation hubs are a little extreme, but one of the big benefits is they can withstand another outbreak or second wave much better a strategy of waiting for rates to come down and staying at home.

A stay at home strategy would probably see a stop-start season.

I partly agree. Victoria is the biggest issue. If they had it under control I don’t think it would be a problem. Every other state is lowering every day except Victoria. By the time the season gets under way I hope Victoria gets its act together.

[Boddo]

Like I’ve said a few times. It’s an expanded VFL and always will be.

"The ability for us to train in groups would have been handy but as we know the AFL makes the rules and it's generally got a bias towards Victorian teams“

AFL favours Vic clubs: Port's Rockliff | The Canberra Times | Canberra, ACT

Footy legend David King called the decision “ridiculous” on Saturday, calling out the AFL’s apparent hypocrisy.

https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/amp.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/afl/kane-cornes-and-tony-jones-lock-horns-over-western-australia-training-debate/news-story/e432c39f050f60d1dfe536b8b38f5b46



Chickens coming home to roost for the AFL.

[barry]

You are a breath of fresh air for this forum boddo. It great to discuss issues in depth as they develop, rather than topics like "best runner in the 90's"

[Boddo]

You are a breath of fresh air for this forum boddo. It great to discuss issues in depth as they develop, rather than topics like "best runner in the 90's"

????thanx

[Melbourne_Blood]

I partly agree. Victoria is the biggest issue. If they had it under control I don’t think it would be a problem. Every other state is lowering every day except Victoria. By the time the season gets under way I hope Victoria gets its act together.

Boddo, there is more than one relative statistic on the link that you keep posting. You realise there is also more than one table on there ?

Percentage of active cases , number of tests done, percentage of positive results are some I would encourage you to take note of.


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[Boddo]

Boddo, there is more than one relative statistic on the link that you keep posting. You realise there is also more than one table on there ?

Percentage of active cases , number of tests done, percentage of positive results are some I would encourage you to take note of.


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I know what I’m talking about I assessed these tables for a living at one stage. Victoria has not been able to stabilise active cases for a week, has consistent new cases for a week, has had a consistent rise in community transmission all week.

It’s the exact reason the Victorian government has not eased restrictions and it’s perfectly understandable.

Until they stabilise their active cases in conjunction with community transmission they will not ease restrictions.

The data does not show this issue for other states. In fact it shows the opposite. With NSW the next worst performing with regular new cases but a reduction in active cases over a week & a stabilisation of community transmission.

Next Queensland with a regular increase in new cases but a large reduction in active cases, even halving that in a week, and very good stabilisation in community cases.

Then Tasmania, WA, SA, ACT the NT.

The data reflects this.


And because this is a football forum talking about the issue of Victoria trying to be one of the hubs and/or the possibility of having sides being FIFO to other states the data does not show in any way shape or form of this possibly happening atm. As shown by the Victorian government disallowing this exact scenario to happen for the Melbourne Storm.

If your trying to paint a picture of me trying to make Victoria look bad due to any type of dislike of the place. I lived there at one stage and loved every minute of it. Would move back in a heartbeat if the wife wasn’t so ill.

As I’ve stated previously I would say the same thing about any state under the exact same circumstances.

In regards to Covid-19 it’s not and shouldn’t be a kick a vic thing. I have huge sympathy for what’s happening in every state attempting to control it. If Victoria gets it under control there, imo we’ll have a FIFO season. As I’ve stated previously.

[Melbourne_Blood]

I know what I’m talking about I assessed these tables for a living at one stage. Victoria has not been able to stabilise active cases for a week, has consistent new cases for a week, has had a consistent rise in community transmission all week.

It’s the exact reason the Victorian government has not eased restrictions and it’s perfectly understandable.

Until they stabilise their active cases in conjunction with community transmission they will not ease restrictions.

The data does not show this issue for other states. In fact it shows the opposite. With NSW the next worst performing with regular new cases but a reduction in active cases over a week & a stabilisation of community transmission.

Next Queensland with a regular increase in new cases but a large reduction in active cases, even halving that in a week, and very good stabilisation in community cases.

Then Tasmania, WA, SA, ACT the NT.

The data reflects this.


And because this is a football forum talking about the issue of Victoria trying to be one of the hubs and/or the possibility of having sides being FIFO to other states the data does not show in any way shape or form of this possibly happening atm. As shown by the Victorian government disallowing this exact scenario to happen for the Melbourne Storm.

If your trying to paint a picture of me trying to make Victoria look bad due to any type of dislike of the place. I lived there at one stage and loved every minute of it. Would move back in a heartbeat if the wife wasn’t so ill.

As I’ve stated previously I would say the same thing about any state under the exact same circumstances.

In regards to Covid-19 it’s not and shouldn’t be a kick a vic thing. I have huge sympathy for what’s happening in every state attempting to control it. If Victoria gets it under control there, imo we’ll have a FIFO season. As I’ve stated previously.

It’s not about a ‘ kick a Vic thing’ for me either , just claims like it’s ‘out of control’, when the stats on your table suggest it’s not the case at all.

The below article says that no state or Territories , other than NSW and TAS, are currently recording ‘infectious’ numbers.

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The issue relating to AFL restarting is due to current restrictions in place in Vic, not that the numbers are ‘out of control’. The government here is taking a decidedly conservative approach. This is what is likely holding up decisions on the re-start. And it’s frustrating, I’m living it so I know as well as anyone. But I won’t assume I know better than they do.


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[Boddo]

It’s not about a ‘ kick a Vic thing’ for me either , just claims like it’s ‘out of control’, when the stats on your table suggest it’s not the case at all.

The below article says that no state or Territories , other than NSW and TAS, are currently recording ‘infectious’ numbers.

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The issue relating to AFL restarting is due to current restrictions in place in Vic, not that the numbers are ‘out of control’. The government here is taking a decidedly conservative approach. This is what is likely holding up decisions on the re-start. And it’s frustrating, I’m living it so I know as well as anyone. But I won’t assume I know better than they do.


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It’s called Rt. It’s infectious rate in time as per link I provided Ludwig in a previous post. Real time infectious rate. It can change on a daily basis.

And your link is yesterday’s news. To be exact 9am yesterday morning. I woke this morning hoping to hear good news about Victoria but sadly the new cases destroyed that. It’s why I’ve always posted on a daily rate because as most people know this can change from day to day. A good day today could have changed the Victorian trend.

They’re not out of control but they need to stabilise and it’s not happening in Victoria.

Decisions will be made by governments whether they are there or not. Andrews and Sutton could have spent the last 3 weeks in Alice Springs and their course of action would be the same. They read the data. They don’t walk down swanston street to get a feel for it.

It’s reading the data and the data does not show the improvement required to change restrictions. It’s not being conservative it’s how this will work.


That will change as soon as they stabilise active cases in conjunction with community transmission. Then Andrews will be able to get the feel of how people are coping with restrictions and a few days of good results will change that very quickly. Could happen by the end of this week very easily. Restrictions could ease. And hopefully for the AFL with data changing it also means a change to how the Vic government view FIFO games.

I say it because it’s what I’ve done previously in one part of my working life was assessing this type of data in health care so yes I’m pretty sure I do know a bit more than a few do.

Health care professionals at the top of the tree do not walk through ICU or a general ward or the local mall to get a feel for what’s going on. They read data plain and simple then if it’s a borderline decision will then consult with the next in line to get a feel for what’s happening.

Ill not respond anymore and I’ll leave it there as I believe this will turn into one of those circular arguments where I’m responding to the same thing over n over again.

Cheers n have a good week

[barry]

As of Thursday, some states will allow training, and some won't. If you aren't in those states, or prepared to move there, you are behind.

The warriors have relocated to Tamworth from another country in a "hub". How can the AFL say hubs are impossible?