2021 trading, drafting and list management: players and personnel

[Ludwig]

I can see us seriously trading next year.

Can see us going hard for Darcy Moore who will see Sydney as an attractive destination for many reasons.

We’ll try and get him for nowt but may need to trade.

And we’re renowned for stalking big forwards. Would be tempted to go for Ben King with three first rounders as bait?

Imagine Darcy Moore and King in our spine for the next 8 years?

I frankly can't see any of this happening. Nor do I think we should try. Logan will be our elite key forward. We don't need, nor can we afford another one. Although we do need to shore up our key defensive stocks, we seem to be in the process of doing that. Tom McCartin is a long term anchor in defence and we have a number of options to fill the 2nd key role. We will have too many players with big salary demands to add someone like Darcy Moore to the payroll.

I also think we should keep our current draft hand. There are some good prospects in the latter part of the 1st round where I feel we can draft a player who can strengthen our list. The 2nd rounders should also provide some reasonable prospects. We already have 2 first rounders next year, so we should be holding a strong enough hand in the 2022 draft.

I don't know if we will be active in the 2022 trade period, but we should be in a good position to play in the game if we choose. It's too early to say. Let's play out the 2022 season first.

[Ralph Dawg]

I frankly can't see any of this happening. Nor do I think we should try. Logan will be our elite key forward. We don't need, nor can we afford another one. Although we do need to shore up our key defensive stocks, we seem to be in the process of doing that. Tom McCartin is a long term anchor in defence and we have a number of options to fill the 2nd key role. We will have too many players with big salary demands to add someone like Darcy Moore to the payroll.

I also think we should keep our current draft hand. There are some good prospects in the latter part of the 1st round where I feel we can draft a player who can strengthen our list. The 2nd rounders should also provide some reasonable prospects. We already have 2 first rounders next year, so we should be holding a strong enough hand in the 2022 draft.

I don't know if we will be active in the 2022 trade period, but we should be in a good position to play in the game if we choose. It's too early to say. Let's play out the 2022 season first.

I was about to say exactly that Ludwig. I will add though if Logan gets poached back to WA, we should get in the market for a key forward. Unfortunately, I don't see Ben King as a possibility given how hard the Melbourne clubs will chase him, especially St Kilda.

[Ludwig]

I was about to say exactly that Ludwig. I will add though if Logan gets poached back to WA, we should get in the market for a key forward. Unfortunately, I don't see Ben King as a possibility given how hard the Melbourne clubs will chase him, especially St Kilda.

I actually don't like the idea of having 2 superstar key forwards on the same team. It draws too much attention from other forward options. I think this would be particularly detrimental for the Swans, because we have such a great cast of small forwards. Our strength is the diversity of options we have up forward.

I just finished watching the round 3 game v Richmond. What a pleasure. Wicks was left alone most of the game. He had 13 marks, 3 goals and a poster. Warner also had a super game. His ability to get the ball to boot quickly and then kick long and on target in a split second is impressive, even for a seasoned player. Much to look forward to with both of these players next year.

[i'm-uninformed2]

I don’t want Moore for two reasons. One - he is very injury prone. And two - with De Goey’s future under a big cloud,, the Pies will have the cap space to throw money at Moore if someone tries a bidding war.

No thanks.

[Ruck'n'Roll]

I actually don't like the idea of having 2 superstar key forwards on the same team. It draws too much attention from other forward options. I think this would be particularly detrimental for the Swans, because we have such a great cast of small forwards. Our strength is the diversity of options we have up forward.

It's a bit quiet at this time of year - would like to make that assertion retrospecive and liven things up?

[Thunder Shaker]

I just finished watching the round 3 game v Richmond. What a pleasure. Wicks was left alone most of the game. He had 13 marks, 3 goals and a poster. Warner also had a super game. His ability to get the ball to boot quickly and then kick long and on target in a split second is impressive, even for a seasoned player. Much to look forward to with both of these players next year.

My favourite goal of 2021 was Warner taking the ball at the centre bounce, shrugging a tackle and bombing it from 50 metres out.

I don’t want Moore for two reasons. One - he is very injury prone. And two - with De Goey’s future under a big cloud,, the Pies will have the cap space to throw money at Moore if someone tries a bidding war.

No thanks.

I'm all for starting a bidding war if it forces Collingwood to use up cap space. That's less cap space they can spend on other players. Sometimes the best trades are the ones that are not completed.

[gloveski]

As it stands, we are 5 down on our list from last year. Going into the draft, we have picks 16, 31, 39, 70, 88.

With the de-listings of Carruthers and Ling, as well as the losses of Dawson and Hewett (both who spent time rebounding our of defence), Josh Sinn would be an excellent get with 16. If we really rated him, we could try and trade up by packaging 16 and 39 for example. If Sinn is already taken then JVR is an obvious option but only if he is the best available player overall. We still have a need for a midfielder or rebounding back given our losses.

In the 30's, Rhett Bazzo would be an option for our KP defensive stocks. With the re-signings of Gould, O'Connor and Reid, as well as the possibility of PMac coming onboard, I think the use of a pick in the 30s would be about right for a tall defender.

I really like the look of Angus (Angry?) Anderson and his back story is great too. With his selection onto our list, it would strengthen our support in Northern NSW, just next door to the Sun's own backyard. We could match with 70 and 88 if he is bid on or take him as a rookie selection (Cat B?).

Finally, I'd like us to take someone as a lockdown defender. We have had two of the best in Crouch and Smooch and Harry had a great 2021. There's no one on our current list I can see to replace Harry if he is injured. Would rookie listing Ling be an option if he's over his chronic injuries? Or do our people just not rate him?

I’ll say it again Sinn is exactly what we need . Has line breaking speed and elite by foot . If it wasn’t for injuries he would be top 5 . Huge upside but there is the risk with some injuries this year


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[wolftone57]

As it stands, we are 5 down on our list from last year. Going into the draft, we have picks 16, 31, 39, 70, 88.

With the de-listings of Carruthers and Ling, as well as the losses of Dawson and Hewett (both who spent time rebounding our of defence), Josh Sinn would be an excellent get with 16. If we really rated him, we could try and trade up by packaging 16 and 39 for example. If Sinn is already taken then JVR is an obvious option but only if he is the best available player overall. We still have a need for a midfielder or rebounding back given our losses.

In the 30's, Rhett Bazzo would be an option for our KP defensive stocks. With the re-signings of Gould, O'Connor and Reid, as well as the possibility of PMac coming onboard, I think the use of a pick in the 30s would be about right for a tall defender.

I really like the look of Angus (Angry?) Anderson and his back story is great too. With his selection onto our list, it would strengthen our support in Northern NSW, just next door to the Sun's own backyard. We could match with 70 and 88 if he is bid on or take him as a rookie selection (Cat B?).

Finally, I'd like us to take someone as a lockdown defender. We have had two of the best in Crouch and Smooch and Harry had a great 2021. There's no one on our current list I can see to replace Harry if he is injured. Would rookie listing Ling be an option if he's over his chronic injuries? Or do our people just not rate him?

I think we always rated Ling and at one stage he looked as though he was going to put a few games together. But he got injured yet again. It is not his talent they don't trust. It is his body

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[707]

Hmmm, two pages of nothing related to trading and drafting ......

[stevoswan]

Hmmm, two pages of nothing related to trading and drafting ......

Including that.....

[AB Swannie]

To return this to the thread purpose and not all about an individual poster, have a look at the kick on this young bloke:

Josh Sinn highlights | 2021 NAB AFL Draft prospect | AFL - YouTube

I’d be more than happy if he slid to our first pick.

[Thunder Shaker]

I'm wondering what our recruiting priorities are for this draft. We've been mentioning specific players, but I'm not sure what the overall draft priorities are. Would we be looking at drafting a KPD and two midfielders?

[707]

I'm wondering what our recruiting priorities are for this draft. We've been mentioning specific players, but I'm not sure what the overall draft priorities are. Would we be looking at drafting a KPD and two midfielders?

Pick 16 if we still have it on draft night will be best available so probably a mid or a HBF, both to have good foot disposal. Only other likely at 16 (18) you would think would be a KPD.

Still a bit to play out with pick trading which could include doing something with 2022 picks given we have three potential academy draftees next year. Only a handful within the club know our strategy for this draft and next years draft. In KB we trust

[liz]

If you want to talk about our existing roster of players, take it to a 2022 (or 2021 for reminiscences) thread. Or set up a dedicated thread for a player if you think that's worthy.

I've moved the last two pages of Chad talk to a dedicated thread. This one is for those still pondering up coming list changes.

[Ralph Dawg]

I find the discussion surrounding the merits of Chad and Rowbotton a bit tedious. It's clear where all the protagonists stand and I think it's time we just sit back and enjoy two excellent prospects forge their respective careers.

And after watching the Josh Sinn replays, I think he's perfect for our needs. Hoping he slides to our pick.