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  • bloodspirit
    Clubman
    • Apr 2015
    • 4448

    Originally posted by i'm-uninformed2
    Isaac, kind of.
    Yes. Hence "or bid on". Melbourne bid for him at pick 2 and we used our late first rounder to match the bid.

    Thanks giant.
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    • 707
      Veterans List
      • Aug 2009
      • 6204

      Originally posted by liz
      No 1 would be Paddy Mac.

      Campbell would be a no. 5, not 6. Bud was also a pick 5.

      The no.6 pick was Francis.

      I am racking my brain to think who was a no. 2.
      Heeney was bid at 2, went to us pre points for pick 18, Dees then drafted Petracca with 2

      Edit: just read the other replies. Think we can rate Heeney as a pick 2, the following year with points he would be that

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      • Maltopia
        Senior Player
        • Apr 2016
        • 1556

        Originally posted by 707
        Heeney was bid at 2, went to us pre points for pick 18, Dees then drafted Petracca with 2

        Edit: just read the other replies. Think we can rate Heeney as a pick 2, the following year with points he would be that
        I always wondered if Roos wasn’t at Melbourne (and trying in part, to show he was not loyal to Sydney anymore) if they would have bid on him at 2.

        Someone else would have likely bid on him later so we would have coughed up pick 17 anyway, but I wonder if he would have gone “later” and this been worth less points in a matching bid in the new system.

        The fact that he was a “number 2” was a main reason for the AFL adopting the points system as some clubs felt we got him way too cheaply.

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        • Auntie.Gerald
          Veterans List
          • Oct 2009
          • 6478

          Heeney showed he was a gem in the juniors just like Mills in my humble opinion.
          "be tough, only when it gets tough"

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          • Auntie.Gerald
            Veterans List
            • Oct 2009
            • 6478

            Tanner Bruhn
            Ollie Henry
            Jack Bowes
            Plus Pick 7

            Vs GF opposition the Swans

            Aaron Francis

            I'm still trying to make sense of how we have increased our probability of success vs the strategy that the Cats have take to flex their 2023?

            Has anyone else felt we slipped at the trade table in advancing our window 2023/24?

            Does anyone else sense mathematically at the very least that Bruhn, Henry and Bowes will play 12 plus games each in 2023 and add significantly to the Cats endeavours to stand on heads again along with the Demons, Pies etc ?

            That the Cats pick 7 may even play some games in 2023 and or push madly the top 26 or so?

            I'm nervous we took a u turn ?
            "be tough, only when it gets tough"

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            • Aprilbr
              Senior Player
              • Oct 2016
              • 1803

              Originally posted by Auntie.Gerald
              Tanner Bruhn
              Ollie Henry
              Jack Bowes
              Plus Pick 7

              Vs GF opposition the Swans

              Aaron Francis

              I'm still trying to make sense of how we have increased our probability of success vs the strategy that the Cats have take to flex their 2023?

              Has anyone else felt we slipped at the trade table in advancing our window 2023/24?

              Does anyone else sense mathematically at the very least that Bruhn, Henry and Bowes will play 12 plus games each in 2023 and add significantly to the Cats endeavours to stand on heads again along with the Demons, Pies etc ?

              That the Cats pick 7 may even play some games in 2023 and or push madly the top 26 or so?

              I'm nervous we took a u turn ?
              AG, I think our main priority was to re-sign our talent on long deals, which we did, and to go the draft with our first round picks. I don't think our trade deals should be used as a barometer of what we were looking to do.

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              • longmile
                Crumber
                • Apr 2011
                • 3365

                Originally posted by The Big Cat
                Has apparently asked about a one year deal but no cigar
                I would absolutely love too

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                • Dow
                  Regular in the Side
                  • Sep 2022
                  • 840

                  Originally posted by longmile
                  I would absolutely love too
                  Thank god we are smarter than that

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                  • Dow
                    Regular in the Side
                    • Sep 2022
                    • 840

                    Originally posted by Auntie.Gerald
                    Tanner Bruhn
                    Ollie Henry
                    Jack Bowes
                    Plus Pick 7

                    Vs GF opposition the Swans

                    Aaron Francis

                    I'm still trying to make sense of how we have increased our probability of success vs the strategy that the Cats have take to flex their 2023?

                    Has anyone else felt we slipped at the trade table in advancing our window 2023/24?

                    Does anyone else sense mathematically at the very least that Bruhn, Henry and Bowes will play 12 plus games each in 2023 and add significantly to the Cats endeavours to stand on heads again along with the Demons, Pies etc ?

                    That the Cats pick 7 may even play some games in 2023 and or push madly the top 26 or so?

                    I'm nervous we took a u turn ?
                    We do things differently, we aren’t a Victorian team and can’t operate like one. I am comfortable we are heading in a good direction, although we may go backwards before we go forward

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                    • Markwebbos
                      Veterans List
                      • Jul 2016
                      • 7186

                      It’s comparing apples and oranges list wise. If anything we are too young and they are too old.

                      The big problem was how cheaply they picked up 4 first round draft picks.

                      For a bag of chips

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                      • Markwebbos
                        Veterans List
                        • Jul 2016
                        • 7186

                        Allegedly its us and some club called GWS that are into Cowan

                        AFL draft 2022: Lachie Cowan on 19th team in Tasmania prospect, linked to Sydney Swans and GWS Giants, stats, interview

                        Although knowing how KB operates we probably aren’t

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                        • Auntie.Gerald
                          Veterans List
                          • Oct 2009
                          • 6478

                          I've always subscribed to the theory in life u can walk and chew gum

                          Ie the Cats can trade we can trade

                          Ie the Cats can secure their up and coming talent and we can secure our up an coming talent

                          If we did in trades what Geelong succeeded to do would any one complain?

                          If they did would they be right?

                          And for how long?
                          "be tough, only when it gets tough"

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                          • The Big Cat
                            On the veteran's list
                            • Apr 2006
                            • 2356

                            Originally posted by Auntie.Gerald
                            I've always subscribed to the theory in life u can walk and chew gum

                            Ie the Cats can trade we can trade

                            Ie the Cats can secure their up and coming talent and we can secure our up an coming talent

                            If we did in trades what Geelong succeeded to do would any one complain?

                            If they did would they be right?

                            And for how long?
                            I'm still to be convinced about Cats young acquisitions. If my memory serves me right, they were all playing reserves at the end of the year, two of them with rubbish seniors.
                            Those who have the greatest power to hurt us are those we love.

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                            • 707
                              Veterans List
                              • Aug 2009
                              • 6204

                              Originally posted by The Big Cat
                              I'm still to be convinced about Cats young acquisitions. If my memory serves me right, they were all playing reserves at the end of the year, two of them with rubbish seniors.
                              They were terribly homesick so weren't playing their best because of that dreadful affliction. Back home with Mum and her cooking they'll be up and about for the Cats!

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                              • rb4x
                                Regular in the Side
                                • Dec 2007
                                • 968

                                Not convinced this draft is very strong especially for talls. Ashcroft seems light years ahead of the rest and there seems to be quite a few injuries. Take best available who does not look like they will get homesick and cross fingers. Still think it is better value to go for a 25yo for a ruck than an untried 18yo who will likely take five years before they are ready.

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