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  • Aprilbr
    Senior Player
    • Oct 2016
    • 1803

    Originally posted by The Big Cat
    I think Taranto is the bloke desperate to stay in Sydney. But he’s on a lot of dough.
    If Buddy goes there is money there. Taranto may be a better bet for us in the medium term than Dusty?

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    • Mark26
      Senior Player
      • Jan 2017
      • 1535

      Originally posted by Aprilbr
      If Buddy goes there is money there. Taranto may be a better bet for us in the medium term than Dusty?
      There is no way we should pay overs for Buddy. If he walks, I'll be disappointed, but I don't think we should compromise our ability to keep the rest of our playing list together.

      There's no way we should touch Dusty. He'd demand big coin and can't get on the park atm. Reminds me a bit of Hannebery (who will always be a Swans' legend).

      I'm all for going after a Hopper or Zurhaar or Taranto type player if the price is right. They're young and can play and could compliment our existing list nicely.

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      • Markwebbos
        Veterans List
        • Jul 2016
        • 7186

        The Hun is alleging (without providing any further information) that we have an interest in Logue at Freo.

        No Cookies | Herald Sun

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        • Ludwig
          Veterans List
          • Apr 2007
          • 9359

          Originally posted by Markwebbos
          The Hun is alleging (without providing any further information) that we have an interest in Logue at Freo.

          No Cookies | Herald Sun
          I can understand that. We were said to be interested in Logue in his draft year. I think he would be a good fit for us. I would be willing to give up a 1st rounder for him. Makes a lot more sense than recruiting a midfielder.

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          • liz
            Veteran
            Site Admin
            • Jan 2003
            • 16769

            Wouldn’t bode well for Gould.

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            • Ludwig
              Veterans List
              • Apr 2007
              • 9359

              Originally posted by liz
              Wouldn’t bode well for Gould.
              Maybe Melican more than Gould. Melican is a FA next year and might ask for a trade this year. If we recruited Logue, then we would likely let Melican go. I have no idea what Gould would be thinking now. Is he in demand elsewhere? Can some other club promise him a starting spot? Is he happy to wait his turn at the Swans? Hard to know. I think O'Connor will be delisted. We could be shedding key defenders over the next couple of years, so we need to find replacements either in the draft or recruits.

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              • 707
                Veterans List
                • Aug 2009
                • 6204

                Originally posted by liz
                Wouldn’t bode well for Gould.
                Logue 194cm

                Herald Sun might just be working out what has to give at Freo if Jackson is going there. A lot of stuff made up in the minds of footy journalists this time of year, or taken straight from the fantasy pages of BigFooty!

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                • Auntie.Gerald
                  Veterans List
                  • Oct 2009
                  • 6477

                  I was just thinking as driving along in the car today

                  If we lost say Chad......to say an ACL......and he was gone for 12months who would replace him and his current very direct explode from the contest role?

                  Secondly would it make that much of a difference to our finals campaign? I look at what Carlton lost when Sam Walsh went from borderline elite to not there due to injury and Carlton just didnt have the same impact. They didnt keep building the same and making it very hard for opposition match ups.

                  I mulled this over because i felt that most teams are fairly fragile and not resilient come finals if they loose a key chess piece or two from the table. This is despite all organic growth arguments being good enough to win a GF.

                  Kennedy could come in and replace the Chad and do a job beyond probably better than anyone else on our list.............but if we didnt have Kennedy next year I sensed we are a bit exposed and could definitely benefit from one more addition to our list that is close to elite...........well if we truly want to 2023 serious contenders......that is !

                  If we had the $ for Dawso.........and we didnt match it.........couldnt this money still be on the table ? Couldnt this money be allocated to speed up our competitiveness in a key role?

                  I would argue that we would NOT have lost a game like against the Bombers if we had that slightly more complete experienced 22 with a Dawso on board playing his amazing role like he did for us in 2021. Just making it so hard for a @@@@ty team to break us down as they doint have the weapons against a Dawso in our backline. I mean I love Foxy but he has nothing one what Dawson 2020/21 gave us on shut down and counter attack.

                  Just making it so much easier to make it irrefutable that we more than a threat........equal 2nd and sitting a win ahead
                  Last edited by Auntie.Gerald; 25 July 2022, 04:25 PM.
                  "be tough, only when it gets tough"

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                  • TheBloods
                    Suspended by the MRP
                    • Feb 2020
                    • 2047

                    Originally posted by Auntie.Gerald
                    I was just thinking as driving along in the car today

                    If we lost say Chad......to say an ACL......and he was gone for 12months who would replace him and his current very direct explode from the contest role?

                    Secondly would it make that much of a difference to our finals campaign? I look at what Carlton lost when Sam Walsh went from borderline elite to not there due to injury and Carlton just didnt have the same impact. They didnt keep building the same and making it very hard for opposition match ups.

                    I mulled this over because i felt that most teams are fairly fragile and not resilient come finals if they loose a key chess piece or two from the table. This is despite all organic growth arguments being good enough to win a GF.

                    Kennedy could come in and replace the Chad and do a job beyond probably better than anyone else on our list.............but if we didnt have Kennedy next year I sensed we are a bit exposed and could definitely benefit from one more addition to our list that is close to elite...........well if we truly want to 2023 serious contenders......that is !
                    You heard of Mills and Parker ? They are elite . Paps plays a similar way to Chad he can explode away from stoppage . Gus can also do this and yes Joey is a bull still . Between that lot i trust them to have it covered if Chad goes down but lets not talk about that .

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                    • Auntie.Gerald
                      Veterans List
                      • Oct 2009
                      • 6477

                      covered for a GF win ?

                      I mean lets get real

                      We are in the window and I would have kept Dawso in a heart beat to INCREASE our probability of success.

                      I dont think this has been replaced at all yet we openly told the marketplace via Tom H that we wanted to keep him and could have.

                      If we could have replaced Dawso's role no probs at all and we keep walking.

                      But we have not and if we cant we need to lift again in another area........otherwise we will all look back on 2022 and maybe 2023 as years that could have been..........

                      I mean if Dawso in our backline couldnt contribute to one extra win and provide us a better chance of a definite top4..............i would be amazed

                      He certainly did in 2021

                      But now that is gone and i dont think we have truly replaced a player with that type of impact.....

                      for me that is a weakness in our best 22............not a strength
                      Last edited by Auntie.Gerald; 25 July 2022, 04:36 PM.
                      "be tough, only when it gets tough"

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                      • liz
                        Veteran
                        Site Admin
                        • Jan 2003
                        • 16769

                        You’re writing as if Dawson was let go willingly, as if the club didn’t kick and scream and beseech and beg.

                        And as if players like Dawson are running around in our clubs’ reserves, waiting to be recruited.

                        I don’t think there’s any doubt we’d be a better side right now with Dawson in the team. But we don’t.

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                        • TheBloods
                          Suspended by the MRP
                          • Feb 2020
                          • 2047

                          Originally posted by Auntie.Gerald
                          covered for a GF win ?

                          I mean lets get real

                          We are in the window and I would have kept Dawso in a heart beat to INCREASE our probability of success.

                          I dont think this has been replaced at all yet we openly told the marketplace via Tom H that we wanted to keep him and could have.

                          If we could have replaced Dawso's role no probs at all and we keep walking.

                          But we have not and if we cant we need to lift again in another area........otherwise we will all look back on 2022 and maybe 2023 as years that could have been..........

                          I mean if Dawso in our backline couldnt contribute to one extra win and provide us a better chance of a definite top4..............i would be amazed

                          He certainly did in 2021

                          But now that is gone and i dont think we have truly replaced a player with that type of impact.....

                          for me that is a weakness in our best 22............not a strength
                          What does Dawson have to do with it ? You were talking about Chad !

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                          • Ruck'n'Roll
                            Ego alta, ergo ictus
                            • Nov 2003
                            • 3990

                            Originally posted by TheBloods
                            What does Dawson have to do with it ? You were talking about Chad !
                            Are you being ironic?

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                            • TheBloods
                              Suspended by the MRP
                              • Feb 2020
                              • 2047

                              Originally posted by Ruck'n'Roll
                              Are you being ironic?
                              No , i am lost . I replied to AG 's comment about Chad and talked about the midfield and then AG was going on about Dawson . What did i miss

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                              • Auntie.Gerald
                                Veterans List
                                • Oct 2009
                                • 6477

                                Pretty sure i was talking both........ and the gaps that are left vacant for contesting a 2022 / 2023 title and making sure we are giving ourselves the absolute best chance while in a window

                                leaving no stone unturned.........I realise that Dawso was not easy to keep and it was 99% we couldnt...........that is obvious

                                What I have been banging on about was that we let Dawso and Hewett go

                                We said we made a great offer for Dawso to stay

                                We are in a window

                                But we are not really showing that we have replaced their talent nor given we are knocking on the door of a GF............we havent replaced like for like impact......ie Dawso went but oour backline doesnt look better nor more commanding come finals

                                Why is that ?

                                ...........

                                Today, 04:15 PM

                                I was just thinking as driving along in the car today

                                If we lost say Chad......to say an ACL......and he was gone for 12months who would replace him and his current very direct explode from the contest role?

                                Secondly would it make that much of a difference to our finals campaign? I look at what Carlton lost when Sam Walsh went from borderline elite to not there due to injury and Carlton just didnt have the same impact. They didnt keep building the same and making it very hard for opposition match ups.

                                I mulled this over because i felt that most teams are fairly fragile and not resilient come finals if they loose a key chess piece or two from the table. This is despite all organic growth arguments being good enough to win a GF.

                                Kennedy could come in and replace the Chad and do a job beyond probably better than anyone else on our list.............but if we didnt have Kennedy next year I sensed we are a bit exposed and could definitely benefit from one more addition to our list that is close to elite...........well if we truly want to 2023 serious contenders......that is !

                                If we had the $ for Dawso.........and we didnt match it.........couldnt this money still be on the table ? Couldnt this money be allocated to speed up our competitiveness in a key role?

                                I would argue that we would NOT have lost a game like against the Bombers if we had that slightly more complete experienced 22 with a Dawso on board playing his amazing role like he did for us in 2021. Just making it so hard for a @@@@ty team to break us down as they doint have the weapons against a Dawso in our backline. I mean I love Foxy but he has nothing one what Dawson 2020/21 gave us on shut down and counter attack.

                                Just making it so much easier to make it irrefutable that we more than a threat........equal 2nd and sitting a win ahead
                                "be tough, only when it gets tough"

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