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  • Goal Sneak
    Out of Bounds on the Full
    • Jun 2006
    • 653

    Originally posted by KTigers
    Pity we can't identify whether they were part of the 22,000 rusted on supporters who saw the Bulldogs game (a week after the travesty of
    "Bombergate") or the extra 22,000 theatre-goers who were there yesterday. Who knows, they were probably booing his $100 hairdo. He
    was cool enough to laugh it off.
    Either way, it's not a good look (both the Swans supporters and the hairdo)

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    • Hotpotato
      Senior Player
      • Jun 2014
      • 2267

      Ginnivan seems a very happy go lucky cavalier sort of kid, hasn’t he bragged about milking frees (or was that someone else), he grinned his head off about it all (despite being injured) and was very engaging with all the Swans post game.
      I didn’t view it as malicious booing .
      Why didn’t they show Eddie, so we could boo him.

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      • KTigers
        Senior Player
        • Apr 2012
        • 2499

        To defeat the really good teams at the peak of their powers (when you've won 11 straight, you are really flying) takes a total team effort
        for all of four quarters. I really can't think of one of our guys who had a poor game yesterday. People go on about Clarke, but he took
        Daicos out. It was probably Fox's best game. McDonald, he is a total team player. Watch him when he's on the floor getting handpasses
        out and batting the ball out. He is prepared to do the grunt work. Not just standing around waiting to take big pack marks. You could
        go on and on. If we are to win this year, it's going to take our 16-22 guys playing career best footy. They seem to be up for it.

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        • Agent 86
          Senior Player
          • Aug 2004
          • 1686

          Sydney vs Collingwood Match Thread

          Originally posted by KTigers
          Pity we can't identify whether they were part of the 22,000 rusted on supporters who saw the Bulldogs game (a week after the travesty of
          "Bombergate") or the extra 22,000 theatre-goers who were there yesterday. Who knows, they were probably booing his $100 hairdo. He
          was cool enough to laugh it off.
          I just remember it being bloody cold. IIRC there was a bit of moronic booing. Probably a Weightman free or Libba being a .… well, being Libba.

          Also Toby Greene copped it pretty bad - which was also embarrassing as we were demolishing them.

          We didn’t really give Dawson much stick, which was okay as I still like watching him & sort of have a soft spot (until the Crows turn it around - which might not be too far off).

          I can handle the booing when someone lays a cheap shot - but otherwise it’s just stupid. We don’t need to give the Vic-centric media any excuses to lay into us. & They will (hypocrites)

          Oh, & I agree with you on Ryan Clarke, KT - keep letting him do his job. A hard little nut.

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          • KTigers
            Senior Player
            • Apr 2012
            • 2499

            Originally posted by Agent 86
            I just remember it being bloody cold. IIRC there was a bit of moronic booing. Probably a Weightman free or Libba being a .… well, being Libba.

            Also Toby Greene copped it pretty bad - which was also embarrassing as we were demolishing them.

            We didn’t really give Dawson much stick, which was okay as I still like watching him & sort of have a soft spot (until the Crows turn it around - which might not be too far off).

            I can handle the booing when someone lays a cheap shot - but otherwise it’s just stupid. We don’t need to give the Vic-centric media any excuses to lay into us. & They will (hypocrites)

            Oh, & I agree with you on Ryan Clarke, KT - keep letting him do his job. A hard little nut.
            The booing thing... for some reason it's part of footy and part of sport all around the world. It doesn't really bother me (except in cases like
            Adam's where a lot of it was clearly racially driven). People can boo if they want, they can recite poetry at games if they want, I couldn't
            care less. Personally I don't do it. I mean I used to play footy when I was younger and anyone on the field now is a way better player than
            I could ever dreamed of being. So me booing them would be a bit of a joke really.
            I suspect there is a bit of sheep like behaviour in crowds. People boo because others are. Like you say, it's not very original.
            I know people get all worked up about these opposition players. I just can't be bothered, I don't know them. I actually like Toby, and I
            saw an interview recently with Cody Weightman. He seemed like a decent, intelligent young bloke.

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            • stellation
              scott names the planets
              • Sep 2003
              • 9718

              Just thinking about Errol. I wonder what he's doing right now.
              I knew him as a gentle young man, I cannot say for sure the reasons for his decline
              We watched him fade before our very eyes, and years before his time

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              • Agent 86
                Senior Player
                • Aug 2004
                • 1686

                Originally posted by KTigers
                The booing thing... for some reason it's part of footy and part of sport all around the world. It doesn't really bother me (except in cases like
                Adam's where a lot of it was clearly racially driven). People can boo if they want, they can recite poetry at games if they want, I couldn't
                care less. Personally I don't do it. I mean I used to play footy when I was younger and anyone on the field now is a way better player than
                I could ever dreamed of being. So me booing them would be a bit of a joke really.
                I suspect there is a bit of sheep like behaviour in crowds. People boo because others are. Like you say, it's not very original.
                I know people get all worked up about these opposition players. I just can't be bothered, I don't know them. I actually like Toby, and I
                saw an interview recently with Cody Weightman. He seemed like a decent, intelligent young bloke.
                I agree. Mostly. But singling people out really gets me. It’s dumb. The AFL and media feed it. They made a thing out of Jack G which was beyond unfair. They make heroes out of Cotchin and Selwood and villains out of kids like him & Weightman (& Adam at the time). It makes me sick when Joe Public falls for it.

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                • Mel_C
                  Veterans List
                  • Jan 2003
                  • 4470

                  Huge thumbs up to the coaches for ensuring that Collingwood couldn't execute their game plan, (apart from a few minutes in the last quarter).

                  It was interesting watching Kennedy next to Longmire on the bench. At one stage Kennedy indicated to Longmire to calm down and towards the end of the game he tried to get Longmire to smile and enjoy the win. I think I was just as intense as Longmire!

                  I want to bring up how great Fox was. Time and again he came from nowhere to take a mark. Our defence seems more settled now he is playing.

                  With the Ginnivan booing, I think it occurred because of the high free he was paid. On replay the free was there, but he again lowered his body, as he has been doing all year. Without seeing a replay I'm sure supporters at the game thought he was staging and got away with it. I'm curious was he being booed before that free? Also it was poor of channel 7 to keep showing him after he was booed the first time.

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                  • KTigers
                    Senior Player
                    • Apr 2012
                    • 2499

                    Originally posted by Agent 86
                    I agree. Mostly. But singling people out really gets me. It’s dumb. The AFL and media feed it. They made a thing out of Jack G which was beyond unfair. They make heroes out of Cotchin and Selwood and villains out of kids like him & Weightman (& Adam at the time). It makes me sick when Joe Public falls for it.
                    mmm.... you can't change that stuff (the media, the AFL, Joe Public) man. Best to just enjoy what is happening out there on the
                    field. And the last six weeks, it's been a lot of fun. The team is flying and hopefully they can keep doing that for the next four games.

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                    • Hotpotato
                      Senior Player
                      • Jun 2014
                      • 2267

                      Josh had the coaches headphone and mike on towards the end of the game like ‘ I’ve got this’ John .

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                      • liz
                        Veteran
                        Site Admin
                        • Jan 2003
                        • 16758

                        Originally posted by Mel_C

                        With the Ginnivan booing, I think it occurred because of the high free he was paid. On replay the free was there, but he again lowered his body, as he has been doing all year. Without seeing a replay I'm sure supporters at the game thought he was staging and got away with it. I'm curious was he being booed before that free? Also it was poor of channel 7 to keep showing him after he was booed the first time.
                        I heard booing when the free was paid, but that's nothing unusual. (Some) fans boos whenever a free is paid against their team, let alone one they think (correctly or incorrectly) is illegitimate.

                        I didn't hear any booing of Ginnivan before that happened. Mind you, I wasn't aware of any booing when he was shown on the screen, sitting on the bench towards the end of the game. I sit over in the O'Reilly Stand, so can't see the huge screen on the Messenger Stand. I have to rely on a tiny little screen near the top of the Brewongle (or is it the Churchill? - I never know which is which). I did happen to catch his image come up on the screen, but it's likely that not many in my part of the ground caught it as the tiny screen isn't in-your-face. Thus there probably wasn't any booing over my side of the ground.

                        I hadn't even noticed up until that point that he was off the ground, and (as I found out later) had been from the time he kicked his goal. I guess I was just too engrossed in the game, and while he's noticeable out there because of his hair, I guess I only really notice opposition players when they have the ball.

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                        • dejavoodoo44
                          Veterans List
                          • Apr 2015
                          • 8570

                          Originally posted by Agent 86
                          I agree. Mostly. But singling people out really gets me. It’s dumb. The AFL and media feed it. They made a thing out of Jack G which was beyond unfair. They make heroes out of Cotchin and Selwood and villains out of kids like him & Weightman (& Adam at the time). It makes me sick when Joe Public falls for it.
                          No, it isn't unfair. He's getting the negative feedback that he deserves. And now sections of the media are running with the narrative, that he's somehow the victim of unjust persecution. He's not. All he has to do, is to stop the flagrant staging and the booing will almost certainly stop. Which is what his associates at Collingwood should be telling him, instead of the bull@@@@, why are they picking on poor little Jack routine.

                          And I do seem to recall both Selwood and Cotchin being booed loudly and often, by opposition fans for their ability to milk frees. But hey, at least they have leaked enough blood, to suggest that at least some of the frees were there.

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                          • MattW
                            Veterans List
                            • May 2011
                            • 4208

                            Originally posted by ugg
                            Whether the stand rule applies in this case is irrelevant as the Collingwood player moved forward over the mark, it should have been 50m penalty to Paddy. My take on what happened is that Paddy didn't hear the umpire call mark, saw Johnson coming at him, must have thought it was not a mark and hence to play on, and then played on.
                            This is my view. It was Johnson's encroachment over the mark which triggered Paddy's movement.

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                            • Agent 86
                              Senior Player
                              • Aug 2004
                              • 1686

                              Originally posted by Mel_C
                              …With the Ginnivan booing, I think it occurred because of the high free he was paid. On replay the free was there, but he again lowered his body, as he has been doing all year. Without seeing a replay I'm sure supporters at the game thought he was staging and got away with it. I'm curious was he being booed before that free? Also it was poor of channel 7 to keep showing him after he was booed the first time.
                              Good point. I did watch the game again last night & noted the booing mostly seemed to come after the free kick. But not too many chances prior to this perhaps?

                              But I agree that was probably the trigger - but the free was there (I checked it out). Papley could’ve got one as well - but that was “good umpiring” according to BT.

                              & Btw, yes, Fox had a cracker of a game. The best I’ve seen him play I reckon.

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                              • monopoly19
                                Senior Player
                                • Aug 2003
                                • 1098

                                Originally posted by Mel_C


                                With the Ginnivan booing, I think it occurred because of the high free he was paid. On replay the free was there, but he again lowered his body, as he has been doing all year. Without seeing a replay I'm sure supporters at the game thought he was staging and got away with it. I'm curious was he being booed before that free? Also it was poor of channel 7 to keep showing him after he was booed the first time.
                                You can hear some boos for him in the first quarter, well before the free kick. But obviously the free kick exacerbated it. Unfortunately the broadcast decision and media focus has turned something silly but minor into a much bigger deal. People don’t like being told they’re wrong and I suspect the booing will continue. Hope I’m wrong.

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