I think the amount Collingwood will continue to contribute is widely accepted. The possibility of Melbourne also making an ongoing contribution is surely speculation (and maybe fantasy).
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I'd heard about Collingwood paying some of his salary, but not about Melbourne doing likeise for whoever buys him.Comment
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You are correct Liz. The biggest problem is trying to convince Grundy to come to Sydney against going back to his hometown Adelaide. I have heard he is a private individual which may help the Swans, however Port are in the same boat as the Swans in as much both clubs desperately need a ruckmanComment
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Did anyone else think GWS would finish above us in 2023?
I find them not a particularly enjoyable team to watch yet we finished lower on the table ???
Is that a reality check of where we are at?"be tough, only when it gets tough"

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I’m happy to be playing finals after where we’ve been most of the year.Those who have the greatest power to hurt us are those we love.Comment
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Yep. They massively underperformed last year.
They are not bereft of youngish players but I think their core of players they depend upon are stronger, more mature bodies, and more experienced than ours. Our defence is more experienced than theirs (though they also have - sometimes - the superb Taylor) but their forward line and midfield are stronger and more experienced.
Given you can pretty much throw a blanket over all the teams' performances this year, bar the top four and bottom three, I don't think there's any reality check to be gained from where the Giants finished relative to us.Comment
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We finished higher. Toby missed out on finals. Seasons been ok so far.Comment
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I don’t mind the big Nanker. I can’t begrudge him wanting more opportunities when we were willing to offer. While I’m not fond of Richmond’s success (mainly because some of their supporters are annoying & it it meant that we were not as successful those seasons) I am happy for an ex-Swans personal success & happiness (in this instance)
So no, error in reading the ladder too quickly
Not fond of that other Toby. Or his team.Comment

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