2023 List Management

[Mel_C]

A bit of everything and all over the place

- Says we’ve been ahead of the curve in the past two decades when it comes to trades
- we are ”circling” a tall, such as TDK or Himmelberg and perhaps a “big-bodied clearance winner”
- buddy retiring will clear up half a million in the cap
- mentions Dusty but then shoots down its own suggestion by saying nothing has suggested Martin would consider leaving Richmond (and then adds unless Hardwick’s departure becomes a factor?)
- TDK would be our number 1 ruck, but hard to see the club fork out $800k/year for him
- houses are 30% more expensive in Sydney v Melbourne, means our contracts have a premium on them
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Thanks ugg

[Mel_C]

Nonsense, and all Vic media erogenous zones.

“Buddy” blah blah “cashed up” blah blah “TDK” blah blah “once got Plugger” blah blah “let’s mention Dusty” blah blah.

Seriously, it was ChatGPT on the piss and with a tabloid twist.

Thanks.

[barry]

I hope we get Tom De koning from Carlton. He would absolutely thrive at the swans

[KSAS]

I hope we get Tom De koning from Carlton. He would absolutely thrive at the swans

+1 But not with ridiculous 8 x $$$$ price tag that will severely comprise our cap in retaining & recruiting future talent. Saw potential with his performance last night. Maybe groomed as a CHB?

Would be nice if we're able to get both HH & TDK without breaking the bank. Realistically, I don't think that will happen and think recruiting a big bodied midfielder is a higher priority over TDK. Can't have them all (wink wink).

My Recruiting Priority;
1. HH
2. Big Bodied Midfielder
3. TDK as a bonus (elevated if we don't get HH)

[Nico]

I hope we get Tom De koning from Carlton. He would absolutely thrive at the swans

But not for the price that has been bandied around.

[Auntie.Gerald]

Tippett mkII ?

[Dow]

Ps that is not me backing away from feeling we should have had a great balance between trades and drafting last two years

I have been quite vocal on that last few years and that strategy has challenged quite strongly but some of the most vocal on this site

But at the same time I never ever would have thought Chad Warner would achieve what he has from year 2 onwards

I have been sitting in the fence with Roberts and sheldrick and Konstanty also

So they could surprise……..either way

And another Lloyd, Rampe, Paps, Fox etc could be unearthed outside of the big time draft picks etc

It certainly is possible with McAndrews as his trajectory could surprise us all and could become a force to be reckoned with

Maybe Stephens who has showed a few hints of being dominant and or should who is getting a taste could leapfrog also after enough time

I agree with you but wonder if there was anyone actually gettable

[Thunder Shaker]

TDK would be our number one ruck? Where is the evidence to back up that statement? Can't even overcome journeyman Pittonet at his own club!

Looks like another grab bag of Vicmedia manure

The Herald Sun is so full of crap that the crap-to-paper ratio actually goes down after it's been used to line a budgie's cage. Combined with being rabid Melbourne-centric, I wouldn't take its articles on the Swans too seriously.

The paper is unlikely to tell us anything we don't already know. Trading for Himmelberg, Buddy's retirement and the salary cap, Dusty Martin - all have been discussed here already. Houses in Sydney are more expensive than houses in Melbourne: everyone's known that for decades.

[Auntie.Gerald]

I have to say that Dustin Martin 32 years I age this year, no Hardwick, maybe keen on a Flag but also keen to get out of the bubble must be thinking Swans……if we can do it?

If we had Dustin Martin in our team in a finals series ……. Seriously that would be interesting.

Heeney, Mills, Parker, Warner and Martin rotating through the mids let alone Dusty playing 30% upfront on the tiny SCG would get us another 35 goals per season to replace Buds goals.

Add in Himmelberg and that would be amazing.

We probably have the draft currency to make it happen also.

Would Richmond let him go and at the same time pay part of his contract? As I suspect we would not want to pay much more than $900k pa?

Would Martin only go for two years as I am guessing the Swans wouldn’t want to do much more than 2024 and 2025?

[chalbilto]

From what I have seen of Martin this year he has not been as effective of influential as previous seasons. I would rather see the club invest in younger players and draft than waste $900k on a 33 year old in 2024.

[Nico]

On SEN this morning it was quoted that Martin is contracted until the end of 2024 and reputedly on $1.2 million next year. Big impost for a club to take on for someone at the end of his career.

[waswan]

to pay martin anymore than 500k would be a joke.

he may be worth more but not to us, thats Richmond's problem.

They would be praying someone grabs the last 2yrs of his deal

[707]

Dusty looks to be in decline, another year older in 2024, complex bloke so might not be motivated.

I'd rather save the $, even if Richmond was paying say half, and keep the draft hand we have. Maybe Richmond could do a Gold Coast, send us Dusty and pick 7 to get the $ off their books :-)

[caj23]

Too late to get Dusty, that ship has sailed

Himmelberg would be an excellent get as a free agent

De Koning without overpaying along with HH would make us a contender next year. Think he could play lock down CHB

[Maltopia]

How could we possibly get TDK without overpaying?

He is not an unrestricted free agent, and they are investing game time with him ahead of Jack Silvagni (see below).

I think we should just forget about him.

Jack Silvagni who was omitted would be better for us as a ruck forward/ swing man and he also dominated our VFL side playing as a key back. More likely to be able to trade for him given he is not as crucial to the Blues’ future as TDK. Eg if TDK is touted as $800K to get him, Jack Silvagni would be $500K?