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Two weeks for that!! Pleeeease.
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No matter what happens at the tribunal, the real impact of this is the fact our preperation is now going to be completely and utterly stuffed - 96 revisited.
Gutted.Regards,
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WHAT HAPPENED TO THE REPREMAND!?Vicky Pollard: Oh my god I so can't believe you just said that this is like the time I threw Anita's nokia in the canal as a joke and she's like you have well got to buy me another one and I'm like get over it and then Paul came over who's adopted anyway and started saying that I fancy Mark Bennett but oh my god just because I have sex with someone doesn't mean I fancy them.Comment
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Definitely the best chance of defence.Originally posted by NMWBloods
'Behind play' is an error of fact. This gives the Swans an out on the basis that the charge is flawed.
I thought the sticking pt was going to be the degree of impact but that one is no longer in dispute,
Now the Swans just have to demonstrate that it was in-play.
However, the grey area of the tribunal machinations is whether, if they go to the tribunal and fight on this point, will he still be eligible for the discount for an early plea? If not, it becomes a moot point - he will miss anyway.
Some have managed to work the system so that they still get the early plea discount even after fighting it, but some others have failed to do this.Comment
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They will go before the tribunal now and see what they think of it (as did Kosi a few weeks back). It's not even at an appeal stage yet. All that will happen is that he will not accept the charge by entering an early guilty plea.
I'm on the Chandwagon!!!
If you cannot compete for the premiership, it's better to be young and exciting than middle-aged and dowdy.
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I always thought this was going to be an all or nothing scenario - either not cited or gone - I don't have any confidence in an appeal.
Looks like we need to start thinking about how to beat them without him.Regards,
Boro BoyComment
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You mean accept that he is guilty but contest the grading of behind play? I don't think that he would then get that benefit, so really it would need to be thrown out altogether...Originally posted by liz
Now the Swans just have to demonstrate that it was in-play.
However, the grey area of the tribunal machinations is whether, if they go to the tribunal and fight on this point, will he still be eligible for the discount for an early plea? If not, it becomes a moot point - he will miss anyway.
Some have managed to work the system so that they still get the early plea discount even after fighting it, but some others have failed to do this.
I'm on the Chandwagon!!!
If you cannot compete for the premiership, it's better to be young and exciting than middle-aged and dowdy.
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So when does the tribunal meet? Immediately or later on tonight?Originally posted by Mike_B
They will go before the tribunal now and see what they think of it (as did Kosi a few weeks back). It's not even at an appeal stage yet. All that will happen is that he will not accept the charge by entering an early guilty plea.Comment
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Yes, this is interesting - the key seems to be to plead guilty but dispute the ruling on one (or more) key element(s). IIRC, the Pies had some success with this method?Originally posted by liz
Definitely the best chance of defence.
I thought the sticking pt was going to be the degree of impact but that one is no longer in dispute,
Now the Swans just have to demonstrate that it was in-play.
However, the grey area of the tribunal machinations is whether, if they go to the tribunal and fight on this point, will he still be eligible for the discount for an early plea? If not, it becomes a moot point - he will miss anyway.
Some have managed to work the system so that they still get the early plea discount even after fighting it, but some others have failed to do this.
I thought there has been a fair amount of success of getting "reckless" donwgraded to "negligent" as well?Comment
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I'm starting to like Blight again.Originally posted by Dave
From the Tele: Blight said: "That is no different to Barry Hall's."... Blight predicted that Hall would play in the Grand Final.
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what they have to do is claim that is negligent rather than reckless.Onwards to Victory!Comment
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It will be tomorrow at the earliest as he has till 10am Tuesday to accept the charge or take it to the tribunal.Originally posted by Ryan Bomford
So when does the tribunal meet? Immediately or later on tonight?
SourceBoth players have until 10am Tuesday to decide whether to accept the offers or take the cases to the AFL Tribunal.
I'm on the Chandwagon!!!
If you cannot compete for the premiership, it's better to be young and exciting than middle-aged and dowdy.
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I hope they contest it obviously.
But if they are unsuccessful they should leave it there and not have a repeat of the Dunkley circus that unsettled the team but particularly Dunks.
The other thing is that he is so obviously giulty we havent got a chance anyway.Comment
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What was the name of that guy who got OJ off?Comment
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Can Bazza plead guilty but still challenge the 'behind play' rating? Or in other words, if we go to the tribunal, is he still eligible for the 25% discount for the 'early' guilty plea?
Someone's probably already answered this, but I can't look through 20 pages of postings.
If he automatically loses the 25% upon challenging the rating, the current system doesn't offer a way out (IMO there's no way they can argue it was negligent rather than reckless). They'd have to challenge the system itself ... which really does bring us back to '96.Comment
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