Why Hall Why????

[CJK]

MORAL OUTRAGE!!!11 !!one!!!!

[stellation]

Maybe part of his punishment should be going round to as many Auskick clinics as he can get to in the next 8 weeks and tell them himself that what he did was stupid.

An excellent idea, although the magoos might be a bit annoyed that he is stepping on their turf by actually going out and talking to kids

[TheHood]

The AusKick idea is a good one. It should happen.

Cheekily and in jest only, I can't help but think that Barry was put up to it by the AFL to show those out West how tough AFL is and any crook act the NRL can do, the Ping Pong boys can do better (a look-away slug to the chin).

Yes and personally, he might as well have clocked me on the chin because I was gob smacked anyway. We can't even console ourselved that "oh well it was a dirty night anyway". It was a terrific night with hope and momentum aplenty for the R&Ws.

It was a quick brain fade from a very aggressive player, he will be back in 6 weeks and Barry better hope his absence isn't felt on the League Ladder, then disappointments will convert to sheer anger.

[dimelb]

You did not read the post properly. I am not justifying what he did. In fact, I deliberately started my post by saying it is not a mitigating factor. I am merely seeking to understand what might have caused what is a despicable act by Hall.

I am raising a secondary issue, which is that the umpire was watching Hall being infringed and deliberately ignored it. After this going on for so many years, I think it was this that made Hall snap. He was filthy abut it, reached the end of his tether, snapped. Grossly selfish and undisciplined, but the umpire, whoever it was, in some way contributed to the outcome by inciting it.

Agree with this. It is a reason, not an excuse, and I saw it the same way. I suspect his gesture after Staker went down said, in effect, 'What am I supposed to do?' The answer is, "Keep your cool' but why did the umpire not act? We see frees all the time for much less than the antics Staker was getting up to. And the word 'antics' does not justify Hall's action.

[CureTheSane]

All this has absolutely nothing to do with Auskick, nor should it.

Seriously, if the kids at Auskick don't know that what Hall did was wrong, then the ones to be held responsible are their parents.

If anything this is a GOOD thing for the kids at Auskick.
They will see the consequences of such actions and the public apologies and embarrassment that go along with it.
Biggest deterrent (and lesson) ever.

[Zlatorog]

CTS, I think you're missing the point here. If Barry is considered to be a hero here, the youngsters are in no ability to make judgement in whether Barry's action was good or bad. Their parent aren't good at that judgement either.

[stellation]

All this has absolutely nothing to do with Auskick, nor should it.

Seriously, if the kids at Auskick don't know that what Hall did was wrong, then the ones to be held responsible are their parents.

If anything this is a GOOD thing for the kids at Auskick.
They will see the consequences of such actions and the public apologies and embarrassment that go along with it.
Biggest deterrent (and lesson) ever.

Every kid this morning knew he did the wrong thing, so you can't fault their parents, but they still thought it was really, really cool.

[CJK]

Won't someone please think of the children!!

(helen lovejoy, simpsons)

[D54]

Not the Ch10 I was watching. They kept showing the initial shrugging off but stopped short of the "king hit". Maybe the coverage here in the west was just bad?

if i cared enough i could bring up about 10 replays from ch 10 recordings that are on my PC's hard drive, but i dnt so yeah ch 10 barely showed it. I hope ch 7 can get some exclusive footage so we can actually see this elusive footage.

PS only 'the 5th quarter' did the cut-off, and 2 seconds later they showed the incident in full so it was a tech error. In addition to that, quarterz said "alright this is the last time we can show this..." after the game but before 'the 5th quarter'...so u kno that ch 10 showed it a bunch of times throughout.

[D54]

the bull@@@@ would never have happened.

If he decided not to be so @@@@@ing stupid it wouldnt have happened, and i wouldnt read these weak cop-outs.

[CureTheSane]

CTS, I think you're missing the point here. If Barry is considered to be a hero here, the youngsters are in no ability to make judgement in whether Barry's action was good or bad. Their parent aren't good at that judgement either.

Nope I get the point 1000% I just don't agree with it.
It's a whole different topic.
"Should AFL players be considered role models or are they simply sportsmen who are unfairly thrust into that position?"
Been there, done that, and "most people vs me" agree to disagree.

Point is, you can't go making chats to kids a part of a punishment.

[Bloody Hell]

Nope I get the point 1000% I just don't agree with it.
It's a whole different topic.
"Should AFL players be considered role models or are they simply sportsmen who are unfairly thrust into that position?"
Been there, done that, and "most people vs me" agree to disagree.

Point is, you can't go making chats to kids a part of a punishment.

They're role models - whether they want to be or not. This is why the AFL comes down so heavily on off field discretions.

Barry Hall is a big brute of a man, but noone here would say he isn't intelligent. As someone else has stated alot of money has been put into his image. He knows it was stupid, he knows the impact.

[stellation]

Nope I get the point 1000% I just don't agree with it.
It's a whole different topic.
"Should AFL players be considered role models or are they simply sportsmen who are unfairly thrust into that position?"
Been there, done that, and "most people vs me" agree to disagree.

Point is, you can't go making chats to kids a part of a punishment.

Keep in mind that it was an on-field discretion, not an off-field one. I agree with not holding them up for off-field actions, but they do need to be mindful of on-field ones.

[Old Royboy]

The irony with all this is that there is a very good answer to why. That brainsnap and perfect punch has increased Hall's purse for his first professional boxing match by many thousands. Boxing promoters all over the country are seeing dollar signs.

It's a sad world when an act of thuggery like that ends up profiting the perpetrator. But I reckon that will happen.

[ROK Lobster]

It's a sad world when an act of thuggery like that ends up profiting the perpetrator. But I reckon that will happen.

That's the whole sport of boxing though, isn't it?