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  • DLBIA14
    On the Rookie List
    • May 2010
    • 673

    Originally posted by liz
    Reeks of the Crows trying to salvage something from the situation.

    It doesn't quite add up to me. Either the Crows see some value in White, in which case you'd kinda think they ought to pay him for the privilege, or they don't, in which case why take him onto their list and dislodge someone else in the process. Given how much they'd put aside for Tippett and the fact they haven't chased anyone else, you'd think they have plenty of room in their cap this year.

    If the Crows are ambivalent about White and we have to pay his salary, I think I'd rather we kept him on Our list to play for Us next year.
    It's not that they are necessarily ambivalent about Jesse or are incapable of incurring his salary. More so they are trying to make Sydney suffer more. Absorbing White's salary would make at a little bit more incapable of making more trades next year, it makes us a little bit more incapable of paying our youngsters the salary rises they will demand in their new contract, it may mean that Jude, should he stay on, will have to earn a little be less that what they would have initially passed on.

    Essentially Tippett wouldn't be a 800k-1m a season player, but 1.1m-1.3m a season player.

    I hope we stand firm tbh. We aren't giving in yet, but it's a matter of whether we eventually concede. If we do, the deal's done. If we don't its the PSD, and frankly we have a good enough chance of getting him for free and Adelaide can content themselves with SFA.

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    • liz
      Veteran
      Site Admin
      • Jan 2003
      • 16770

      Originally posted by DLBIA14
      It's not that they are necessarily ambivalent about Jesse or are incapable of incurring his salary. More so they are trying to make Sydney suffer more. Absorbing White's salary would make at a little bit more incapable of making more trades next year, it makes us a little bit more incapable of paying our youngsters the salary rises they will demand in their new contract, it may mean that Jude, should he stay on, will have to earn a little be less that what they would have initially passed on.

      Essentially Tippett wouldn't be a 800k-1m a season player, but 1.1m-1.3m a season player.

      I hope we stand firm tbh. We aren't giving in yet, but it's a matter of whether we eventually concede. If we do, the deal's done. If we don't its the PSD, and frankly we have a good enough chance of getting him for free and Adelaide can content themselves with SFA.
      We'd only be paying his salary for a year. So it might force a little bit of restructuring this year to backend a few payments.

      But Jesse is contracted so presumably the Swans have already factored in his salary for next year anyway. If the Swans have enough salary cap space available for anything even approaching the figures that have been bandied around for Tippett, I can't imagine that $300k for one year is going to be anything more than a minor inconvenience. They must already be aware that they will need to factor in increases for the likes of JPK, Mummy, Hanners, AJ when their contracts shortly come up for renewal.

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      • DLBIA14
        On the Rookie List
        • May 2010
        • 673

        Are you sure it's a year only? If it's only a year I don't think it would be a problem - we probably would have already agreed and you'd think Adelaide probably wouldn't even bother (though I may be underestimating their bitterness).

        I suppose we are all just speculating without knowing the details, but the situation as presented is quite baffling.

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        • liz
          Veteran
          Site Admin
          • Jan 2003
          • 16770

          You're right, we're all speculating without any real knowledge. But I think White is just contracted for next year. Implausible to think the Swans would agree to pay anything towards a contract renewal for a player no longer on the list.

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          • liz
            Veteran
            Site Admin
            • Jan 2003
            • 16770

            Crows' 'tamper' affair

            Well here's a whole new twist on the situation.

            According to Emma Quayle, the "gentleman's agreement" does exist and the Crows have confessed as such to the AFL. Seems like it is against their rules (though hard to know how this additional benefit might be factored into the salary cap). Looks like there might be a bit more to play out in this drama yet.

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            • Melbournehammer
              Senior Player
              • May 2007
              • 1815

              This might explain a few things.

              Crows' 'tamper' affair

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              • DLBIA14
                On the Rookie List
                • May 2010
                • 673

                Wow. 3 days to go in trade week and the @@@@ just hit the fan in this situation. The last month seems to indicate that the Crows are moonlighting as a professional football club. Their conduct inspires no confidence.

                This may be the reason why the papers that were supposed to go through on Friday got held up.

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                • Melbournehammer
                  Senior Player
                  • May 2007
                  • 1815

                  I wonder whether we have a plan "b" - I suspect that the afl may be trying to get involved here

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                  • DLBIA14
                    On the Rookie List
                    • May 2010
                    • 673

                    If her claims are true and the AFL is sseriously investigating the situation I think we won't be able to trade for him TBH. Those trade dates may just pass before we get any indication of how the cards may fall. Tippett is in just a much @@@@ as Adelaide if their conduct is found to be inappropriate.

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                    • Matty10
                      Senior Player
                      • Jun 2007
                      • 1331

                      Originally posted by liz
                      I just read this, but am still not sure what to make of it. It all sounds dramatic, but how is this draft tampering?

                      Even if the AFL were to penalise any party in this scenario (although I still don't know how) it would likely be Adelaide and, or, Tippett's manager (I would be extremely surprised if they would sanction Tippett over this - surely he is not responsible for submitting official paperwork - and it has absolutely nothing to do with the Swans).

                      I doubt this would really prevent a trade being done (for whatever price the two clubs agreed upon).

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                      • Ludwig
                        Veterans List
                        • Apr 2007
                        • 9359

                        Maybe it's best to let the whole thing drop. Why get involved in such a mess?

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                        • Matty10
                          Senior Player
                          • Jun 2007
                          • 1331

                          Emma Quayle is churning out the drama now:

                          Crows braced for worst over Tippett

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                          • The Big Cat
                            On the veteran's list
                            • Apr 2006
                            • 2356

                            Might explain why Sydney and Adelaide appear to trying to make the deal seem fairer by putting in Jesse's salary.
                            Those who have the greatest power to hurt us are those we love.

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                            • R-1
                              Senior Player
                              • Aug 2005
                              • 1042

                              Originally posted by Matty10
                              I just read this, but am still not sure what to make of it. It all sounds dramatic, but how is this draft tampering?

                              Even if the AFL were to penalise any party in this scenario (although I still don't know how) it would likely be Adelaide and, or, Tippett's manager (I would be extremely surprised if they would sanction Tippett over this - surely he is not responsible for submitting official paperwork - and it has absolutely nothing to do with the Swans).

                              I doubt this would really prevent a trade being done (for whatever price the two clubs agreed upon).
                              It's tampering with trade period and the draft by using dodgy methods to retain a player for a few years.

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                              • R-1
                                Senior Player
                                • Aug 2005
                                • 1042

                                Also, how the hell does Rucci have a job when he's been writing daily articles on Tippet for two weeks and gets scooped by a real journalist based in Melbourne?

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