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  • Luke Shannon
    Suspended by the MRP
    • Apr 2016
    • 119

    If Mitchell leaves, what about Jack Trengove from Melbourne. Former number 3 pick and captain who has fallen on hard times due to injury.

    He is back and playing for the Casey Scorpians, but it seems that younger midfielders such as Oliver, Brayshaw and Viney are ahead of him.

    He would only be worth a 4 / 5 round pick. I think he could be the next Laidler if given a chance.

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    • Auntie.Gerald
      Veterans List
      • Oct 2009
      • 6480

      Michael Voss played approx 3 seasons as a small med forward before heading into the pack

      He was a lot leaner in those first 3 seasons and very much like Heeney in build at same age

      First player for some time that has reminded me of Vossy

      Hall of Fame Legend: Michael Voss - YouTube
      "be tough, only when it gets tough"

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      • Auntie.Gerald
        Veterans List
        • Oct 2009
        • 6480

        geese id love Vossy down at the Swannies one day in the coaching group
        "be tough, only when it gets tough"

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        • Auntie.Gerald
          Veterans List
          • Oct 2009
          • 6480

          watch at the 14min 30 seconds mark and you will see a young Vossy almost identical in the air and marking like Heeney

          Lions Legend Michael Voss on Open Mike (07 Apr 2014) - YouTube
          "be tough, only when it gets tough"

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          • Ludwig
            Veterans List
            • Apr 2007
            • 9359

            Originally posted by Auntie.Gerald
            geese id love Vossy down at the Swannies one day in the coaching group
            Coming Auntie!

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            • Meg
              Go Swannies!
              Site Admin
              • Aug 2011
              • 4828

              Is it already Killing Season 2016 (List Management) after 2 rounds

              Thanks Auntie for posting the Voss video - spectacular stuff. It did remind me though how the AFL rules change over time. There are at least two (brilliant) sliding incidents where Voss took out the legs of an opposition player. Would be a penalty free kick against him today.

              (It's one of the things that makes me mad when people bag Goodes as a player who - they say - endangered others by sliding in. It was an accepted (probably coached) way to try to win a 50:50 ball for players of his generation).

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              • liz
                Veteran
                Site Admin
                • Jan 2003
                • 16773

                Originally posted by Auntie.Gerald
                geese id love Vossy down at the Swannies one day in the coaching group
                Why? He was inept as a senior coach at Brisbane, and has done nothing to improve Port since he joined their coaching staff. There may be a good coach inside him, waiting to emerge, but there's no tangible evidence yet that this is the case.

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                • Mug Punter
                  On the Rookie List
                  • Nov 2009
                  • 3325

                  Originally posted by Maltopia
                  Think it was a typo and he meant KPD.
                  Correct hic....

                  - - - Updated - - -

                  Originally posted by Auntie.Gerald
                  geese id love Vossy down at the Swannies one day in the coaching group
                  Errrmmmm, Nup

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                  • Levii3
                    Regular in the Side
                    • Jun 2015
                    • 655

                    Originally posted by liz
                    Why? He was inept as a senior coach at Brisbane, and has done nothing to improve Port since he joined their coaching staff. There may be a good coach inside him, waiting to emerge, but there's no tangible evidence yet that this is the case.
                    +1

                    Iam a bit jealous that GWS got Lenny Hayes as a coach though would have been great to see him in R&W

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                    • Maltopia
                      Senior Player
                      • Apr 2016
                      • 1556

                      I always thought we should have tried harder to keep Tim Membrey as we got very little out of the trade (pick 37 for pick 39?). He has kicked 4.0 so far halfway through the third quarter vs Melbourne today.

                      edit - now 5.0!

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                      • RogueSwan
                        McVeigh for Brownlow
                        • Apr 2003
                        • 4602

                        Originally posted by Maltopia
                        I always thought we should have tried harder to keep Tim Membrey as we got very little out of the trade (pick 37 for pick 39?). He has kicked 4.0 so far halfway through the third quarter vs Melbourne today.

                        edit - now 5.0!
                        With the quality delivery he is getting any decent forward should have kicked a few today. I'm not saying he isn't any good but don't judge him just on this game. His first half wasn't real good. It was only after the Saints midfield, especially Acres, got on top that he got his goals.
                        I am much happier with what we have now.
                        "Fortunately, this is the internet, so knowing nothing is no obstacle to having an opinion!." Beerman 18-07-2017

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                        • Auntie.Gerald
                          Veterans List
                          • Oct 2009
                          • 6480

                          Originally posted by liz
                          Why? He was inept as a senior coach at Brisbane, and has done nothing to improve Port since he joined their coaching staff. There may be a good coach inside him, waiting to emerge, but there's no tangible evidence yet that this is the case.
                          agree

                          no evidence Liz

                          purely gut feeling for me on this one

                          probably like the day that Roos said to Kirk

                          "you've been rejected from the Snr team 4 year straight..........but i think now you are ready" and under Roos game style /plan ........Kirky was ready

                          PS methinks liz a little unfair to level judgement on Voss's career at Port...........Port are rotting like a 30 day old apple and more then just Voss is to blame is my hunch ??

                          Their players have no conviction this season
                          "be tough, only when it gets tough"

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                          • barry
                            Veterans List
                            • Jan 2003
                            • 8499

                            Originally posted by liz
                            Why? He was inept as a senior coach at Brisbane, and has done nothing to improve Port since he joined their coaching staff. There may be a good coach inside him, waiting to emerge, but there's no tangible evidence yet that this is the case.
                            Thats a little harsh on voss. The Lions are uncoachable and leppa has a worse record. The AFL have screwed that club.

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                            • sharp9
                              Senior Player
                              • Jan 2003
                              • 2508

                              Originally posted by TheDaneTrain
                              Didnt we get Ted with a first rounder?
                              Pick #19 = Courtney Dempsey (from memory) = we win :-)
                              "I'll acknowledge there are more talented teams in the competition but I won't acknowledge that there is a better team in the competition" Paul Roos March 2005

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                              • WauchopeAnalyst
                                Regular in the Side
                                • Sep 2008
                                • 834

                                After watching a lot of footy this year and we can see the game evolving I think we can't play 4 slow mid players to win the flag or maybe this year but not next year.
                                (Some for Ted, Reg & Laids - only 2)

                                Kennedy, Mitchell, Hannebery and Parker.

                                Parker - Overall Parks gives is something inside/outside, forward and marking and our best mid.

                                Hannebery - Our, and the whole league, best outside runner and hardest/toughest ball receiver and gets killed/targeted every game by the Hawks.

                                Kennedy - our biggest hardest inside midfielder, joey can go forward take a mark and kick the goal, but that has almost disappeared and his decision making and skills are becoming very average and (a massive statement) he panics any no pressure and hack/bombs it forward without looking. If you tape games watch them again.

                                Mitchell - the extractor who wins his own ball and fired it out to other players at warp speed, sometimes too quick, does a lot a hacking/bombing forward and no penetration on his kick, can't mark above his head, but seems to find the big sticks when snapping and very dangerous around goal.

                                Parks and Dan are locked away. 1 more year for Joey and Titch is unsigned. Is it possible that a flag can make it easier and Titch can chase the cash and good luck to anyone who realises its 10-12years before your out, if you are really good, and much earlier if the game changes.

                                I look at Melbourne, yes Roos, with Petracca, Brayshaw and Oliver in 2 years. Petracca is a young Fyfe but Oliver and Brayshaw, with Viney and Jones, are inside grinders, and can't hurt you on the outside or forward and the Saints killed them on the outside and with mid sized defenders. No flags for either and 2 more years of development.

                                Jones and this is our Zac (appears to be a favourite whipping boy, not me), not Nathan, who can play in the mids, faster then all them and a strong kicking game, playing out of position. If given a run of straight games in the right position, I believe Zac will bloom into a raging bull around the ball and with Heeney, Mills and Hewett playing in the mids in the coming years.

                                If one goes, we maybe get an early pick, and I worry about Kinnear with his early pick record, but above 30 he is impeccable.

                                Just thinking aloud!???? I hope it reads ok and it is a bit long.

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