Is it already Killing Season 2016 (List Management) after 2 rounds

[Luke Shannon]

If Mitchell leaves, what about Jack Trengove from Melbourne. Former number 3 pick and captain who has fallen on hard times due to injury.

He is back and playing for the Casey Scorpians, but it seems that younger midfielders such as Oliver, Brayshaw and Viney are ahead of him.

He would only be worth a 4 / 5 round pick. I think he could be the next Laidler if given a chance.

[Auntie.Gerald]

Michael Voss played approx 3 seasons as a small med forward before heading into the pack

He was a lot leaner in those first 3 seasons and very much like Heeney in build at same age

First player for some time that has reminded me of Vossy

Hall of Fame Legend: Michael Voss - YouTube

[Auntie.Gerald]

geese id love Vossy down at the Swannies one day in the coaching group

[Auntie.Gerald]

watch at the 14min 30 seconds mark and you will see a young Vossy almost identical in the air and marking like Heeney

Lions Legend Michael Voss on Open Mike (07 Apr 2014) - YouTube

[Ludwig]

geese id love Vossy down at the Swannies one day in the coaching group

Coming Auntie!

[Meg]

Is it already Killing Season 2016 (List Management) after 2 rounds

Thanks Auntie for posting the Voss video - spectacular stuff. It did remind me though how the AFL rules change over time. There are at least two (brilliant) sliding incidents where Voss took out the legs of an opposition player. Would be a penalty free kick against him today.

(It's one of the things that makes me mad when people bag Goodes as a player who - they say - endangered others by sliding in. It was an accepted (probably coached) way to try to win a 50:50 ball for players of his generation).

[liz]

geese id love Vossy down at the Swannies one day in the coaching group

Why? He was inept as a senior coach at Brisbane, and has done nothing to improve Port since he joined their coaching staff. There may be a good coach inside him, waiting to emerge, but there's no tangible evidence yet that this is the case.

[Mug Punter]

Think it was a typo and he meant KPD.

Correct hic....

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geese id love Vossy down at the Swannies one day in the coaching group

Errrmmmm, Nup

[Levii3]

Why? He was inept as a senior coach at Brisbane, and has done nothing to improve Port since he joined their coaching staff. There may be a good coach inside him, waiting to emerge, but there's no tangible evidence yet that this is the case.

+1

Iam a bit jealous that GWS got Lenny Hayes as a coach though would have been great to see him in R&W

[Maltopia]

I always thought we should have tried harder to keep Tim Membrey as we got very little out of the trade (pick 37 for pick 39?). He has kicked 4.0 so far halfway through the third quarter vs Melbourne today.

edit - now 5.0!

[RogueSwan]

I always thought we should have tried harder to keep Tim Membrey as we got very little out of the trade (pick 37 for pick 39?). He has kicked 4.0 so far halfway through the third quarter vs Melbourne today.

edit - now 5.0!

With the quality delivery he is getting any decent forward should have kicked a few today. I'm not saying he isn't any good but don't judge him just on this game. His first half wasn't real good. It was only after the Saints midfield, especially Acres, got on top that he got his goals.
I am much happier with what we have now.

[Auntie.Gerald]

Why? He was inept as a senior coach at Brisbane, and has done nothing to improve Port since he joined their coaching staff. There may be a good coach inside him, waiting to emerge, but there's no tangible evidence yet that this is the case.

agree

no evidence Liz

purely gut feeling for me on this one

probably like the day that Roos said to Kirk

"you've been rejected from the Snr team 4 year straight..........but i think now you are ready" and under Roos game style /plan ........Kirky was ready

PS methinks liz a little unfair to level judgement on Voss's career at Port...........Port are rotting like a 30 day old apple and more then just Voss is to blame is my hunch ??

Their players have no conviction this season

[barry]

Why? He was inept as a senior coach at Brisbane, and has done nothing to improve Port since he joined their coaching staff. There may be a good coach inside him, waiting to emerge, but there's no tangible evidence yet that this is the case.

Thats a little harsh on voss. The Lions are uncoachable and leppa has a worse record. The AFL have screwed that club.

[sharp9]

Didnt we get Ted with a first rounder?

Pick #19 = Courtney Dempsey (from memory) = we win :-)

[WauchopeAnalyst]

After watching a lot of footy this year and we can see the game evolving I think we can't play 4 slow mid players to win the flag or maybe this year but not next year.
(Some for Ted, Reg & Laids - only 2)

Kennedy, Mitchell, Hannebery and Parker.

Parker - Overall Parks gives is something inside/outside, forward and marking and our best mid.

Hannebery - Our, and the whole league, best outside runner and hardest/toughest ball receiver and gets killed/targeted every game by the Hawks.

Kennedy - our biggest hardest inside midfielder, joey can go forward take a mark and kick the goal, but that has almost disappeared and his decision making and skills are becoming very average and (a massive statement) he panics any no pressure and hack/bombs it forward without looking. If you tape games watch them again.

Mitchell - the extractor who wins his own ball and fired it out to other players at warp speed, sometimes too quick, does a lot a hacking/bombing forward and no penetration on his kick, can't mark above his head, but seems to find the big sticks when snapping and very dangerous around goal.

Parks and Dan are locked away. 1 more year for Joey and Titch is unsigned. Is it possible that a flag can make it easier and Titch can chase the cash and good luck to anyone who realises its 10-12years before your out, if you are really good, and much earlier if the game changes.

I look at Melbourne, yes Roos, with Petracca, Brayshaw and Oliver in 2 years. Petracca is a young Fyfe but Oliver and Brayshaw, with Viney and Jones, are inside grinders, and can't hurt you on the outside or forward and the Saints killed them on the outside and with mid sized defenders. No flags for either and 2 more years of development.

Jones and this is our Zac (appears to be a favourite whipping boy, not me), not Nathan, who can play in the mids, faster then all them and a strong kicking game, playing out of position. If given a run of straight games in the right position, I believe Zac will bloom into a raging bull around the ball and with Heeney, Mills and Hewett playing in the mids in the coming years.

If one goes, we maybe get an early pick, and I worry about Kinnear with his early pick record, but above 30 he is impeccable.

Just thinking aloud!???? I hope it reads ok and it is a bit long.