Is it already Killing Season 2016 (List Management) after 2 rounds

[Auntie.Gerald]

I have loved the speed and kick out of the GWS backline this season as it has destroyed other teams most weeks

Ie Shaw, Wilson, Williams etc so personally I would like us to tinker with our backline rotation re speed

A super fast but tall Jonathon marsh 194cm developing player would be great for the HBF....it will be his 3rd year of afl

My gut feeling is Ted will retire

Mcglynn move on to the Gold Coast Suns

McVeigh will stay one more season and experience and game da organisation will be key

We have Talia and AA that can step in for the talls succession inthe backs when needed

Harrison marsh will be a great understudy for nick smith and will get more game time in a lock down type role and at 189cm can move and medium talls and small S as he is mobile young swampy......this allows Zac 50% more time in the midfield

2017

B Smith, Heath Grundy Zak Jones

HB Laidler, Rampe, H.Marsh

C Heeney, Kennedy, Mills

HF macca, Franklin, Hannebery

F Reid, Rohan, Parker

FOL
Kurt Tippett, k jack, Mitchell ?

I/C Hewett, Lloyd, Sinclair, Towers

EMG

AA
Talia
Harry Cunningham
Abe Davis
Sam Naismith
James rose
Jonathon marsh ?

[Ludwig]

Just for the hell of it, I thought I'd take an early crack at the 2017 team by making a few changes to your side. I left out both Macca and Mitchell, although I expect that both will be in our best 22 next year. WCE-ESS game too boring to watch any longer.

2017

B Smith, Grundy, Talia

HB Laidler, Rampe, Newman

C Heeney, Jack, Hannebery

HF Papley, Franklin, Rose

F Reid, Rohan, Tippett

FOL: Naismith, Kennedy, Parker

I/C Hewett, Jones, O'Riordan, Mills

EMG: Davis, Cunningham, Lloyd

[Auntie.Gerald]

Oops forgot paps but it's time ahead of Mcglynn me thinks for 2017

Kennedy, hannes, Heath, buddy, jack, Parker, smithy, Rampe, laids, Tippett, Sinclair = plenty of leaders

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[Auntie.Gerald]

Ps for me laids and Rampe have proven so far how adaptable our back line is without two 193cm type backs ie only Grundy in the main

Rampe going to a tall has meant our counter attack is sharp as he breaks so fast

Gws have shown how a shorter fast backline can be lethal

Hawthorn has gone for a fast tall backline

Laids at 190cm to me plays like a 193cm easily as his arm span is a few inches more then most guys 193cmish if not longer

[barry]

I think McVeigh and Ted will retire, and maybe mcGlynn retires or leaves.

Our backline is actually performing really well. I think the problems are overstated. But we are at a cross roads where we either promote from within to replace ted, or go to the market to get an established player.

I think we can cover ted internally. Talia, Marsh and Allir have to produce strong 2nd half of the seasons to prove that.

We probably need a new running half back (Heath Shaw type) more than anything.

[RogueSwan]

... We probably need a new running half back (Heath Shaw type) more than anything.

Lewis Jetta?

[Ludwig]

We probably need a new running half back (Heath Shaw type) more than anything.

Jones has provided some good run off half back, but suspect he will play more through the midfield as time goes on.

Newman is the one that could provide that run. Reminds me a lot of Malceski in the way he plays. Gets plenty of the ball, runs hard and kicks well.

O'Riordan should be ready to go at senior level next year and is playing well enough to be worth a go this year, but doubt it will happen. I think he'll be more of a wingman, but is also is a hard runner. It will interesting to see how Leonardis goes in his development because he's a very energetic player.

The Giants have a good attack off half back because they have a fair few who can run hard and kick well, particularly Wilson and Williams, plus guys like Scully and Whitfield in support. Hawthorn have proven that you don't need quick players to provide good rebound out of defence if you've got players who can kick the ball accurately and know where to run.

I think McVeigh will still be around for another couple of years, at least. But it is true that he doesn't create much in rebound attack. Lloyd is a hard runner, but not a dangerous line breaker. Cunningham could have been that player, but doesn't get enough of the ball.

I still think Rohan is one of the possibilities for a running half back role. If Towers can hold his spot in the forward line, that may well free Rohan to play another role.

[RogueSwan]

... Hawthorn have proven that you don't need quick players to provide good rebound out of defence if you've got players who can kick the ball accurately and know where to run. ...

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[Cosmic Wizard]

Hey boys and girls, check out the video of Mitch McCarthy, 6.5 inches "Mitch McCarthy Laguntas Game 3" youtube.

Sorry can't seem to do the link. Seriously good leap, just what we need in the big tall defender department.

Mention in Five talking points: The under-18 championships - AFL.com.au at the end.

He has being injury and but looks at terrific player.!

We have the small, nows let go for the leaping giant.

[rojo]

Only if he is a good mark, has good disposal skills, is a good decision maker, plays with composure under pressure , has grunt and is good below the knees as well!

[Mug Punter]

Jones has provided some good run off half back, but suspect he will play more through the midfield as time goes on.

Newman is the one that could provide that run. Reminds me a lot of Malceski in the way he plays. Gets plenty of the ball, runs hard and kicks well.

O'Riordan should be ready to go at senior level next year and is playing well enough to be worth a go this year, but doubt it will happen. I think he'll be more of a wingman, but is also is a hard runner. It will interesting to see how Leonardis goes in his development because he's a very energetic player.

The Giants have a good attack off half back because they have a fair few who can run hard and kick well, particularly Wilson and Williams, plus guys like Scully and Whitfield in support. Hawthorn have proven that you don't need quick players to provide good rebound out of defence if you've got players who can kick the ball accurately and know where to run.

I think McVeigh will still be around for another couple of years, at least. But it is true that he doesn't create much in rebound attack. Lloyd is a hard runner, but not a dangerous line breaker. Cunningham could have been that player, but doesn't get enough of the ball.

I still think Rohan is one of the possibilities for a running half back role. If Towers can hold his spot in the forward line, that may well free Rohan to play another role.

O'Riordan I think will slot in perfectly on the half back flank, I really rate this kid.

Jones is playing well there and Mills has too though I can see him playing midfield next year.

Rohan certainly has the speed but I really like him up forward as our third tall when he leads long and straight and plays the lines. Plus he is usually a very good kick for goal.

Reid really isn't overly missed for mine. He has promised a lot and delivered much less than a $500K a year deal demands. I cannot help wonder if he'll be offered up as trade bait should Deano prove his critics wrong.

[Cosmic Wizard]

Only if he is a good mark, has good disposal skills, is a good decision maker, plays with composure under pressure , has grunt and is good below the knees as well!

Did you watch the video??? Does all of those!

[rojo]

Hmmm .... the mark was OK.

[Cosmic Wizard]

How about Adam Tomlinson, 193cm, killing it the NEAFL, and last year Carlton offered pick #11 for the man.

Why go to do the draft and hope for a star, when there is one there and five years of elite training in him??

Offer our pick 16-18 for him, the Giants have a swag of academy star they need to find points for, everyones happy.

Combines that with Marchbank and we solve our backline!

[Mug Punter]

How about Adam Tomlinson, 193cm, killing it the NEAFL, and last year Carlton offered pick #11 for the man.

Why go to do the draft and hope for a star, when there is one there and five years of elite training in him??

Offer our pick 16-18 for him, the Giants have a swag of academy star they need to find points for, everyones happy.

Combines that with Marchbank and we solve our backline!

We're no chance.

Tomlinson plus another player like Steele will probably be bundled up and traded to Essendon for the Number 1 Pick

I think they will use the cap space freed up to lock in Marchbank.

Stewart and maybe a bundle of other players to get their list down to 40 will also be offered up, probably for an early second rounder next year.

That still eaves them with Hoskin-Eliot as their back up KPF and a bunch of other guns coming through.

I can well see this years Premiers having the Number 1 pick and two other first rounders (one at 6-8) this year. That list has the potential to make the AFL a non contest for the next five to eight years. Truly terrifying