2016 trading and drafting (merged thread)

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  • goswannies
    Senior Player
    • Sep 2007
    • 3051

    Originally posted by stellation
    Grimes was delisted by Melbourne, I was surprised that he's 27 but even then would have expected they'd wait until the trading period.
    Yup ... 2 games this season ... Just enough to allow any sons to qualify as potential father/son recruits

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    • caj23
      Senior Player
      • Aug 2003
      • 2462

      Originally posted by stellation
      Grimes was delisted by Melbourne, I was surprised that he's 27 but even then would have expected they'd wait until the trading period.
      Even without being a FA he'd have no trade value whatsoever

      Not saying he won't get picked by another team, but holding on to a player in the hope of getting a 3rd or 4th round pick is completely pointless

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      • stellation
        scott names the planets
        • Sep 2003
        • 9720

        Originally posted by ugg
        He's a free agent so if any club wants him it won't need to trade for him.
        Right! Will have to get my head around that.
        I knew him as a gentle young man, I cannot say for sure the reasons for his decline
        We watched him fade before our very eyes, and years before his time

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        • Crusty
          Pushing for Selection
          • Jan 2016
          • 57

          Hun has McKenzie listed as trade bait:
          No Cookies | Herald Sun

          With Nic Nat out for next year, West Coast needs a ruckman....

          So, let's trade Sinclair for Mackenzie!

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          • RogueSwan
            McVeigh for Brownlow
            • Apr 2003
            • 4602

            Originally posted by caj23
            but holding on to a player in the hope of getting a 3rd or 4th round pick is completely pointless
            ... unless you need academy points?
            Originally posted by Crusty
            Hun has McKenzie listed as trade bait:...

            With Nic Nat out for next year, West Coast needs a ruckman....

            So, let's trade Sinclair for Mackenzie!
            I would not mind that and mean Nankervis will have less reason to look else where. Then again are we forgetting how well Sinclair played five months ago. At the time he looked to be a good pick up with plenty of upside.
            "Fortunately, this is the internet, so knowing nothing is no obstacle to having an opinion!." Beerman 18-07-2017

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            • Mug Punter
              On the Rookie List
              • Nov 2009
              • 3325

              Originally posted by RogueSwan
              ... unless you need academy points?


              I would not mind that and mean Nankervis will have less reason to look else where. Then again are we forgetting how well Sinclair played five months ago. At the time he looked to be a good pick up with plenty of upside.
              I would take that too. As much as I suits us to have four quality rucks, as we now do, the reality is that #4 will be getting itchy feet if he has any ambition so the #4 ruck is usually a journeyman type (Currie or that spud at GWS) or a young prospect.

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              • Untamed Snark
                Senior Player
                • Feb 2011
                • 1375

                If we trade a ruck Sinclair is the one I'd be happiest losing.
                He was good early in the season but he depends on Tippett
                Chillin' with the strange Quarks

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                • Mug Punter
                  On the Rookie List
                  • Nov 2009
                  • 3325

                  Originally posted by Untamed Snark
                  If we trade a ruck Sinclair is the one I'd be happiest losing.
                  He was good early in the season but he depends on Tippett
                  It is going to be an interesting trade period that's for sure and I just get the feeling we might be a little more active than we let on

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                  • caj23
                    Senior Player
                    • Aug 2003
                    • 2462

                    Originally posted by Untamed Snark
                    If we trade a ruck Sinclair is the one I'd be happiest losing.
                    He was good early in the season but he depends on Tippett
                    It's not the worst idea but I'd be astounded if we gave a bloke a 3 year contract at good money, moved him halfway across the country, then offered him up for trade the next season.

                    I'm sure we'd like to keep all 4 on the list, but the reality is that we'll probably lose Nankervis who is uncontracted and will probably be able to get more game time and opportunity elsewhere

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                    • CureTheSane
                      Carpe Noctem
                      • Jan 2003
                      • 5032

                      Originally posted by Untamed Snark
                      If we trade a ruck Sinclair is the one I'd be happiest losing.
                      He was good early in the season but he depends on Tippett
                      Same
                      The difference between insanity and genius is measured only in success.

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                      • Mug Punter
                        On the Rookie List
                        • Nov 2009
                        • 3325

                        Will be interesting to see if we upgrade Harry Marsh - after playing in two winning finals it would seem harsh when we have upgraded Newman. I guess we could make him a second year rookie assured that he'd be upgraded under the LTIL for AJ immediately thereby allowing him effectively a one year deal on full rates.

                        If we assume we'll lose seven players in TomD, TomM, Ted, Jack, Towers, Ben and Nanka (unfortunately) then we could afford three upgrades (Paps, Marsh and Newman) with three draftees (One mid, one KPD and a young ruckman) and one experienced player (as is our custom each year).

                        But I do think we'll be keen to draft Jake Brown, preferably as a rookie so I guess if we have to take Brown with a draft pick then we may well not upgrade Marsh.

                        Assuming we let Galloway leave then that will mean we can draft four new rookies - Brown will be one if he doesn't get picked in the main draft and Liam Maze could be worth a tilt. Not sure any of the NDS boys this year really demanded a rookie.

                        Out of interest, do we get priority to the academy boys in the rookie draft?

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                        • ernie koala
                          Senior Player
                          • May 2007
                          • 3251

                          Originally posted by Untamed Snark
                          If we trade a ruck Sinclair is the one I'd be happiest losing.
                          He was good early in the season but he depends on Tippett
                          Yep, 'Nearly there' has lived up to his nickname....

                          How about a straight swap...Sinclair for Jetts...we can call it a draw.
                          Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it's time to pause and reflect... MT

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                          • Maltopia
                            Senior Player
                            • Apr 2016
                            • 1556

                            Originally posted by Mug Punter

                            Out of interest, do we get priority to the academy boys in the rookie draft?
                            I don't see how, as the points system is based on average salaries of national draftees at each position, which would not hold for rookie/PSD players.

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                            • Ludwig
                              Veterans List
                              • Apr 2007
                              • 9359

                              Originally posted by Mug Punter
                              Will be interesting to see if we upgrade Harry Marsh - after playing in two winning finals it would seem harsh when we have upgraded Newman. I guess we could make him a second year rookie assured that he'd be upgraded under the LTIL for AJ immediately thereby allowing him effectively a one year deal on full rates.

                              If we assume we'll lose seven players in TomD, TomM, Ted, Jack, Towers, Ben and Nanka (unfortunately) then we could afford three upgrades (Paps, Marsh and Newman) with three draftees (One mid, one KPD and a young ruckman) and one experienced player (as is our custom each year).

                              But I do think we'll be keen to draft Jake Brown, preferably as a rookie so I guess if we have to take Brown with a draft pick then we may well not upgrade Marsh.

                              Assuming we let Galloway leave then that will mean we can draft four new rookies - Brown will be one if he doesn't get picked in the main draft and Liam Maze could be worth a tilt. Not sure any of the NDS boys this year really demanded a rookie.

                              Out of interest, do we get priority to the academy boys in the rookie draft?
                              I'm not so sure that Benny will be let go after he's done so well in recent games. I think it would be good move to let Sinclair go in a trade, but it's been reported that Nanka might leave instead. You would think that we would want to keep him. And Tom Mitchell is no certainty to leave. I think we will and should ask for some solid compo if he does. I figure we will lose 6 seniors and we may not replace Galloway, just reduce our list by one. Melican would also be in doubt.

                              BTY, I think if an academy players doesn't get drafted in the ND, then he can automatically be prelisted by us as a rookie and taken at the end of the rookie draft.

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                              • mattybloods
                                Warming the Bench
                                • Jul 2016
                                • 482

                                Originally posted by Mug Punter
                                If we assume we'll lose seven players in TomD, TomM, Ted, Jack, Towers, Ben and Nanka (unfortunately) then we could afford three upgrades (Paps, Marsh and Newman) with three draftees (One mid, one KPD and a young ruckman) and one experienced player (as is our custom each year).
                                Has Brandon got one year left? I would imagine Benny has earned himself another year too but will be interesting to see what we do there

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