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  • 0918330512
    Senior Player
    • Sep 2011
    • 1654

    Originally posted by 707
    McVeigh who looked a certain retirement earlier in the year is now playing very good football again showing he is a key component of our back 6 and will probably get another year if he keeps performing like this through to the end of the H&A and the now looking more than likely finals.
    Will Macca be our next 300 gamer?

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    • barracuda
      Regular in the Side
      • Jun 2016
      • 551

      Originally posted by 707
      Got a better mix in the midfield with Mitchell's departure. He wouldn't be getting the same numbers here as he wouldn't be the main man in the middle whereas at the Hawks he's nearly the only man!
      Watching kennedy clear the ball from the centre bounces in the third quarter showed an incredibly well drilled midfield. I am not sure that Mitchell was able to be a part of that kind of structuring. Did anyone else notice that Kennedy was clearing the ball time after time in exactly the same way? I couldn't believe GWS let it happen.

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      • barracuda
        Regular in the Side
        • Jun 2016
        • 551

        Originally posted by 707
        McVeigh who looked a certain retirement earlier in the year is now playing very good football again showing he is a key component of our back 6 and will probably get another year if he keeps performing like this through to the end of the H&A and the now looking more than likely finals.

        Not many players looking like certain delists at this point and we need to make three changes as per AFL rules. Probably only Leonardis & BJ are certainties, Talia maybe goes? That's three. Have I missed anyone in the likely going list?

        Melican is an upgrade meaning only two ND selections, pick 17 & 35 :-) Won't use pick 53. As always, will be an interesting post season.
        Don't forget there is a strong rumour that the rookie system will go this draft and be replaced with 1 year contracts picked after pick 80. Accordingly the swans may pick eight 1 year contract players after pick 80. So some or all the rooks will be converted to contract players. All 8 will be available for senior selection without upgrade.

        Having seen a number of reserves games this year I think Pinke needs to show more, and also Ronke is dropping off. I think guys like Rose, BJ and Dawson are awesome talents but they are still incredibly focused on their own game. They play an incredibly aggressive attacking style of footy but it is hard to see how well they fit into a system. It is understandable that they are trying to show their wares in the NEAFL however I know that they have been told time and time again in match reviews to be leaders and bring younger players, especially top ups into the game. I went to the reserves on the weekend and saw these guys abusing a top up who was taking a set shot at goal for not passing it to them. Basically they put him off, and you could see he was distracted. I know they will get ripped in match review for it. I saw them a few weeks before against Canberra where they did the same thing to another top up. This poor kid had about 3 of them screaming at him to handball to them as he was taking a set shot. I guess its a tough world but even at the local sydney prems level you see senior guys encouraging and trying to settle young players down.

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        • Jeynez
          Warming the Bench
          • May 2013
          • 223

          Originally posted by 09183305
          Will Macca be our next 300 gamer?
          Hopefully, he's on 292 games -- 6 more H&A games and a good team performance in finals will get him there

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          • YvonneH
            Senior Player
            • Sep 2011
            • 1141

            Melican signed for another 3 years. Reid and Jones looking less likely every day.

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            • Mark26
              Senior Player
              • Jan 2017
              • 1535

              Originally posted by YvonneH
              Melican signed for another 3 years. Reid and Jones looking less likely every day.
              Well deserved for Melican. He has embraced his opportunities in the seniors and looks as though he belongs. We have a pretty good record of either picking the right rookies or converting our rookies into solid players who go on and have wonderful careers. Hope that Melican has many more years to come in our backline.

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              • Nico
                Veterans List
                • Jan 2003
                • 11329

                Originally posted by barracuda
                Watching kennedy clear the ball from the centre bounces in the third quarter showed an incredibly well drilled midfield. I am not sure that Mitchell was able to be a part of that kind of structuring. Did anyone else notice that Kennedy was clearing the ball time after time in exactly the same way? I couldn't believe GWS let it happen.
                It took Kennedy to step up because before that we were horrible out of the guts. I asked why we didn't do something about Ward who cut us up at stoppages all over the ground.

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                Originally posted by YvonneH
                Melican signed for another 3 years. Reid and Jones looking less likely every day.
                Reid's price will drop if he keeps getting injured. Missed him as the swing man on Saturday.
                http://www.nostalgiamusic.co.uk/secu...res/srh806.jpg

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                • Markwebbos
                  Veterans List
                  • Jul 2016
                  • 7186

                  Originally posted by Nico
                  Reid's price will drop if he keeps getting injured. Missed him as the swing man on Saturday.
                  I thought I saw him taking a mark down back on Saturday.

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                  Originally posted by YvonneH
                  Melican signed for another 3 years. Reid and Jones looking less likely every day.
                  I'm going to be optimistic until I hear otherwise

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                  • aguy
                    Senior Player
                    • Mar 2014
                    • 1324

                    Originally posted by Mark26
                    Well deserved for Melican. He has embraced his opportunities in the seniors and looks as though he belongs. We have a pretty good record of either picking the right rookies or converting our rookies into solid players who go on and have wonderful careers. Hope that Melican has many more years to come in our backline.
                    grundy pick 42 in the 2005 rookie draft. Melican was pick 52 in the 2015 rookie draft. 10 years later and 10 picks later. Looks like we've done it again

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                    • MattW
                      Veterans List
                      • May 2011
                      • 4195

                      Originally posted by aguy
                      grundy pick 42 in the 2005 rookie draft. Melican was pick 52 in the 2015 rookie draft. 10 years later and 10 picks later. Looks like we've done it again
                      Yep, similar build, disposition, and capacity to pluck a nonchalant contested mark. What a bloody great apprenticeship for the lad under Reg.

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                      • dejavoodoo44
                        Veterans List
                        • Apr 2015
                        • 8497

                        Yes, well done to Melican for seizing his opportunity. And in a way, I'll be quite disappointed if the AFL cut the rookie list, since we do seem to do a better job than any other club, of turning rookies into quality players.

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                        • mcs
                          Travelling Swannie!!
                          • Jul 2007
                          • 8149

                          Originally posted by Mark26
                          Well deserved for Melican. He has embraced his opportunities in the seniors and looks as though he belongs. We have a pretty good record of either picking the right rookies or converting our rookies into solid players who go on and have wonderful careers. Hope that Melican has many more years to come in our backline.
                          +1 - fantastic to lock a promising young player in for 3 years
                          "You get the feeling that like Monty Python's Black Knight, the Swans would regard amputation as merely a flesh wound."

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                          • Mug Punter
                            On the Rookie List
                            • Nov 2009
                            • 3325

                            Originally posted by dejavoodoo44
                            Yes, well done to Melican for seizing his opportunity. And in a way, I'll be quite disappointed if the AFL cut the rookie list, since we do seem to do a better job than any other club, of turning rookies into quality players.
                            I know where you are coming from but I think the change will really be in name only and related to conditions.

                            The success we have with these kids isn't so much the rookie list as the development work and patience we put into these kids. That advantage shouldn't change for us.

                            Great news to see Melican sign up for three more years, along with Towers' finding his niche and Newman's arrival his rise has been great to see.

                            Time is certainly running out for Zak to sign on, next week will be key. It will be interesting to see how we handle the trade if he decides to leave, I'd like us to be able to use whatever we get for him to raise our first rounder to Pick 5 or 6 to give us a shot at a KPF like Brander or Balta one of who you'd expect there (Rayner, Fogarty and Davies-Uniacke seem to be almost universal top threes)

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                            • Club 80
                              Suspended by the MRP
                              • Apr 2017
                              • 149

                              What is Jones holding out for? More money or a Victorian Club. I would have thought that signing until he is a restricted free agent would have given him the flexibility desired.

                              Should we give Jones the Nick Stevens treatment and sent him to Brisbane in the pre - season draft?

                              He won't go to Brisbane and will be forced to retire or sign another contract with the Swans. I believe this was the ROK deal.

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                              • dejavoodoo44
                                Veterans List
                                • Apr 2015
                                • 8497

                                Originally posted by Mug Punter
                                I know where you are coming from but I think the change will really be in name only and related to conditions.

                                The success we have with these kids isn't so much the rookie list as the development work and patience we put into these kids. That advantage shouldn't change for us.

                                Great news to see Melican sign up for three more years, along with Towers' finding his niche and Newman's arrival his rise has been great to see.

                                Time is certainly running out for Zak to sign on, next week will be key. It will be interesting to see how we handle the trade if he decides to leave, I'd like us to be able to use whatever we get for him to raise our first rounder to Pick 5 or 6 to give us a shot at a KPF like Brander or Balta one of who you'd expect there (Rayner, Fogarty and Davies-Uniacke seem to be almost universal top threes)
                                Don't tell anyone, but I'm starting to become a bit of a Towers fan.

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