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  • 707
    Veterans List
    • Aug 2009
    • 6204

    Originally posted by barry
    Taking Menzel is essentially a Rohan/Menzel swap. And I dont think we get a lot out of that. Ronke and Papley pushed Rohan out of the side. They will do the same to Menzel.
    Ronke & Papley will be in the midfield rotation a fair bit for their pace and evasiveness leaving space for Menzel to be slotting them from everywhere

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    • Captain
      Captain of the Side
      • Feb 2004
      • 3602

      Based on who Papley struggled to run out that GWS game I would have him nowhere near the midfield.

      He needs a big pre season or won't make the best 22.

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      • AnnieH
        RWOs Black Sheep
        • Aug 2006
        • 11332

        Originally posted by YvonneH
        No talk of AJ going to another club yet in the media?
        Is he still a chance?
        Yeah, nah.
        At some point we had to say enough is enough.
        Wild speculation, unsubstantiated rumours, silly jokes and opposition delight in another's failures is what makes an internet forum fun.
        Blessed are the cracked for they are the ones who let in the light.

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        • dimelb
          pr. dim-melb; m not f
          • Jun 2003
          • 6889

          Originally posted by Captain
          Based on who Papley struggled to run out that GWS game I would have him nowhere near the midfield.

          He needs a big pre season or won't make the best 22.
          They should all have a big preseason, but even if Papley's was merely solid he's still in the best 22 as a very good crumber. I just hope he puts more time into accuracy.
          He reminds him of the guys, close-set, slow, and never rattled, who were play-makers on the team. (John Updike, seeing Josh Kennedy in a crystal ball)

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          • Plugger46
            Senior Player
            • Apr 2003
            • 3674

            We'd need to improve a bit (a lot) to push Papley to the NEAFL.
            Bloods

            "Lockett is the best of all time" - Robert Harvey, Darrel Baldock, Nathan Burke, Kevin Bartlett, Bob Skilton

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            • Boddo
              Senior Player
              • Mar 2017
              • 1049

              Originally posted by waswan
              I thought i read buddy was exempt from ASA payments, another Fitzpatrick gift ?

              I think next TV deal will be decent, Foxtels only saving grace is AFL, if they lose that there is next to no reason to have foxtel due to internet TV
              Cricket is the reason I have it. Just got it reconnected a few weeks ago. If your a league fan there’s another reason.

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              • mattybloods
                Warming the Bench
                • Jul 2016
                • 482

                Originally posted by barry
                Taking Menzel is essentially a Rohan/Menzel swap. And I dont think we get a lot out of that. Ronke and Papley pushed Rohan out of the side. They will do the same to Menzel.
                I take your point about not wanting to push any of our young talent out of the side, but Menzel is a step up from Rohan. More goals per game, possessions per game, marks per game (including contested marks and marks inside 50) and higher disposal efficiency. Rohan has more tackles per game but I think on the whole an improvement.

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                • barry
                  Veterans List
                  • Jan 2003
                  • 8499

                  Originally posted by mattybloods
                  I take your point about not wanting to push any of our young talent out of the side, but Menzel is a step up from Rohan. More goals per game, possessions per game, marks per game (including contested marks and marks inside 50) and higher disposal efficiency. Rohan has more tackles per game but I think on the whole an improvement.
                  Not according to Geelong.

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                  • Markwebbos
                    Veterans List
                    • Jul 2016
                    • 7186

                    Originally posted by mattybloods
                    I take your point about not wanting to push any of our young talent out of the side, but Menzel is a step up from Rohan. More goals per game, possessions per game, marks per game (including contested marks and marks inside 50) and higher disposal efficiency. Rohan has more tackles per game but I think on the whole an improvement.
                    Menzel’s agent argued he was asked to play as the deep forward making it hard for him to have many tackling opportunities (his alleged weakness).

                    I wonder with the failure to land Vandenberg / Langdon whether we’ll run with more than 38 for one year only and take a punt on a couple of DFA, as much to lift our age/experience profile as anything.

                    Doesn’t Menzel average 2 goals a game?

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                    • S.S. Bleeder
                      Senior Player
                      • Sep 2014
                      • 2165

                      Originally posted by Captain
                      Based on who Papley struggled to run out that GWS game I would have him nowhere near the midfield.

                      He needs a big pre season or won't make the best 22.
                      That might be the case with Papley but Ronke is essentially a midfielder. I'd expect him to have the tank to play in the midfield.

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                      • mattybloods
                        Warming the Bench
                        • Jul 2016
                        • 482

                        Originally posted by Markwebbos
                        Menzel’s agent argued he was asked to play as the deep forward making it hard for him to have many tackling opportunities (his alleged weakness).

                        I wonder with the failure to land Vandenberg / Langdon whether we’ll run with more than 38 for one year only and take a punt on a couple of DFA, as much to lift our age/experience profile as anything.

                        Doesn’t Menzel average 2 goals a game?
                        Yep 1.9 compared to Rohan's 0.9. I'm not sure what salary Rohan was on but Menzel will be at least half that you would think, worth a punt if his body is alright

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                        • Auntie.Gerald
                          Veterans List
                          • Oct 2009
                          • 6474

                          If we are entering the forward line more like hawthorn style then having a very accurate extra kick at goal will be handy

                          The key for the forwards is not always tackling

                          Most important is making sure you move the exit from the opposing team into the higher pressure areas on the field

                          You would have to truly review menzels defensive efforts by watching games to determine how much he contributed to the forward line defensive pressure

                          It appears his attack is a massive counter balance
                          "be tough, only when it gets tough"

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                          • Faunac8
                            Senior Player
                            • Mar 2014
                            • 1548

                            Swans target delisted AFL free agents
                            Must admit I don’t know much about Sutcliffe he is a small defender with no real apparent stand out strengths . Was originally drafted with pick 71 and has played 100 games so must have some ability
                            So I wonder where we see him fitting in?

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                            • waswan
                              Senior Player
                              • Oct 2015
                              • 2047

                              Sorry from WA so leagye is non existent
                              Im ovet cricket too, way to much of it last few years

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                              • lwjoyner
                                Regular in the Side
                                • Nov 2004
                                • 942

                                if we sign Menzel what a slap in the face for AJ. If we do should have offered a rookie spot to aj

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