2018 trading, drafting and list management: players and personnel

[R-1]

If Sutcliffe and Townsend are both in the frame I'd say we're definitely scoping out DFAs as a backstop in case of a high Blakey bid.

[Molly dooker]

He was delisted a couple of weeks ago.

Hi Liz, i know that and this is why i bothered with my post as he was running like a man on a mission or a promise.

Curioser and curioser.

[rickmat]

If you look back a couple of pages, I think we collectively came to the position (after I stumbled) that we had room on the senior list to
-draft Blakey
- draft three more players in the ND (which is what Beatson has indicated the club plans to do)
- upgrade Ronke
- either take a DFA OR upgrade Fox

Now we know that Fox has been upgraded.

There are technically another couple of senior spots that could be used if the club chooses to expand its list to 40. But it has run with 38 for many years now so that seems reasonably unlikely.

In terms of available spots on the rookie list, we can carry 4-6 Cat A rookies (6 if we have 38 on the senior list; 4 if we have 40 on the senior list) and up to 3 Cat B rookies.

Bell was a Cat B rookie last year. I have no idea if he is allowed to remain as a Cat B rookie (and if he is, whether that's what the club has elected to do). Pink and Amartey occupy two other spots.

Hi Liz, I would like the club to go to 40. My reasoning is that our NEAFL team was let fdown by several factors in the past seasons. We were made to play a very understrength squad in the GF due to the unique NEAFL rules and secondly it would good if we had some strengthening of more experience overall. Our Academy players played their heart out particularly in the GF. So an extra two players with some AFL experience would be an asset if they are delisted and would offer value for money at minimum cost to overall salary. It seems we have some scope in 2019 season in salary

[707]

We run with 38 on the senior list to save salary cap space. We've now freed up a lot of space (I think) so maybe we might go to 39 or 40?

[bloodspirit]

I like the point that over the next season it could make sense to have a bigger list given that we most likely have the cap space. As against that there are two other ways we could use the cap space:

1. Pay under the cap (not generally a good strategy) so that we can pay over the cap (up to 105%) next year and be even more able to jag a big fish.

2. Bring forward some player contract payments so we have less salary cap pressure in future seasons.

Any theories why we might be preferring Sutcliffe to Tommy Sheridan who the Dockers are also delisting after having drafted him in 2011 and who is even more of a gun runner and who was a first round draft pick? Sutcliffe is a backman and Sheridan a mid. Perhaps we are looking to get an improved version of Marsh for depth? Maybe it's more about character/leadership/training standards issues, as this must be extra-important when we are looking to fill a gap in experience level at our club? However either player seems to be a very hard worker to reach such elite levels of fitness.

[Ludwig]

There are too many options these days to work out what's really going on with someone like Maibaum. It looks to me that we would like to push Maibaum to the rookie list, but it's hard to know what happens next. It would have seemed easier to delist Pink and take him again as a rookie and keep Fox as a third year rookie, which would have left an additional spot for Maibaum. I doubt if there would be much interest in Maibaum anyway, especially if we committed to redraft him as a rookie. Maibaum seemed to have finished off the year well, but so did Jake Brown.

Foote may also have been told that would likely be rookied. It think he's a better prospect than whoever we'd take on our last rookie pick. Or maybe he's keen on joining his mates a Sydney Uni.

Picks 26+38 come to 1194 point, a bit more than we need if Blakey goes pick 9. We would only drop back to pick 42 with pick 39 if Blakey gets bid at pick 8, and pick 41 will be used by Collingwood for a Quaynor, so we actually wouldn't drop any spots regardless of whether Blakey goes pick 8 or pick 9. That said, we could trade pick 33 for a future pick and take 3 in the ND instead of 4, leaving a spot open for a DFA. All this assumes that we want to keep the primary list at 38.

See. Once you start talking options, it just goes on forever.

in 2014 Sutcliffe was name Freo's best player in the finals. Going from that to being delisted is a long way down. I'm not sure what happened. Jacob Townsend would be an interesting addition. We know he's as tough as they come. I can't see either one making the best 22 though.





I can't tell you what it is, but there's something about Tom Liberatore that suggests he could become a key position player.

[Ralph Dawg]

There are too many options these days to work out what's really going on with someone like Maibaum. It looks to me that we would like to push Maibaum to the rookie list, but it's hard to know what happens next. It would have seemed easier to delist Pink and take him again as a rookie and keep Fox as a third year rookie, which would have left an additional spot for Maibaum. I doubt if there would be much interest in Maibaum anyway, especially if we committed to redraft him as a rookie. Maibaum seemed to have finished off the year well, but so did Jake Brown.

Foote may also have been told that would likely be rookied. It think he's a better prospect than whoever we'd take on our last rookie pick. Or maybe he's keen on joining his mates a Sydney Uni.

Picks 26+38 come to 1194 point, a bit more than we need if Blakey goes pick 9. We would only drop back to pick 42 with pick 39 if Blakey gets bid at pick 8, and pick 41 will be used by Collingwood for a Quaynor, so we actually wouldn't drop any spots regardless of whether Blakey goes pick 8 or pick 9. That said, we could trade pick 33 for a future pick and take 3 in the ND instead of 4, leaving a spot open for a DFA. All this assumes that we want to keep the primary list at 38.

See. Once you start talking options, it just goes on forever.

in 2014 Sutcliffe was name Freo's best player in the finals. Going from that to being delisted is a long way down. I'm not sure what happened. Jacob Townsend would be an interesting addition. We know he's as tough as they come. I can't see either one making the best 22 though.





I can't tell you what it is, but there's something about Tom Liberatore that suggests he could become a key position player.

That may be the case if height is now measured to the top of one's hair!

[Markwebbos]

Maibaum has a contract

Young duo extend - sydneyswans.com.au

[Velour&Ruffles]

Maibaum has a contract

Young duo extend - sydneyswans.com.au

Very very pleased to hear that. I'm hopeful that in years to come he and Melican be our two key defenders and leave Aliir to be more of a running/intercept player. I think that will actually help us get more out of Aliir than if we use him as more of the classical lockdown Reg-style backman .... a role which Maibaum seems to have real promise for. Win win I hope. He was All Australian under age and has done good jobs on senior players according to the ressie watchers, so I think it would have been very short sighted to cut him.

[Ludwig]

Maibaum has a contract

Young duo extend - sydneyswans.com.au

Funny omitting new contracts for Fox and Pink at the same time.

[bloodspirit]

Giants considering Sheridan: Giants could throw ex-Docker an AFL lifeline - AFL.com.au. I hope that's not why we're looking at Sutcliffe and that it is us with our noses in front not the other way around. GWS have Matt de Boer but we have Kirky to get the inside mail and to lure them in.

[S.S. Bleeder]

There are too many options these days to work out what's really going on with someone like Maibaum. It looks to me that we would like to push Maibaum to the rookie list, but it's hard to know what happens next. It would have seemed easier to delist Pink and take him again as a rookie and keep Fox as a third year rookie, which would have left an additional spot for Maibaum. I doubt if there would be much interest in Maibaum anyway, especially if we committed to redraft him as a rookie. Maibaum seemed to have finished off the year well, but so did Jake Brown.

Foote may also have been told that would likely be rookied. It think he's a better prospect than whoever we'd take on our last rookie pick. Or maybe he's keen on joining his mates a Sydney Uni.

Picks 26+38 come to 1194 point, a bit more than we need if Blakey goes pick 9. We would only drop back to pick 42 with pick 39 if Blakey gets bid at pick 8, and pick 41 will be used by Collingwood for a Quaynor, so we actually wouldn't drop any spots regardless of whether Blakey goes pick 8 or pick 9. That said, we could trade pick 33 for a future pick and take 3 in the ND instead of 4, leaving a spot open for a DFA. All this assumes that we want to keep the primary list at 38.

See. Once you start talking options, it just goes on forever.

in 2014 Sutcliffe was name Freo's best player in the finals. Going from that to being delisted is a long way down. I'm not sure what happened. Jacob Townsend would be an interesting addition. We know he's as tough as they come. I can't see either one making the best 22 though.





I can't tell you what it is, but there's something about Tom Liberatore that suggests he could become a key position player.

He looks like Cosmo Kramer, only much uglier.

[waswan]

Levi Greenwood still unsigned
he would be a good pick up

[707]

So no confirmation from the club that Fox has been upgraded?

What is the state of our senior list now Rose and Maibaum are re-signed?

[AnnieH]

Libba junior... no.
He will pay for the sins of his father.
I will personally boo him.